Know who your friends are, tee heee.

From another real experienced guy:
Rally America forum
The Rally America Competition License Application asks for:

"Username: (Future Web Site Access)"

Is there going to be a forum where only licensed competitors can post to and/or access stage information for planning purposes/movement plans not available to the general rally community?

Maybe allow the access to competitors thru their license application and team principles/managers/owners thru visual package order form application to gather their Username info to grant access privledges.

Tired of reading opinions/attacks of people of no relevance here. Might well just read SS.com. Imagine what we can accomplish with undiluted competitor/organizer/owner/tech director/?.... dialog and not everyone who has no stake in the sport still sticking their nose in it.
Thanks.

Yours in the sport,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce
How about people who prepare cars for a living? Many of them have a lot of experience on technical issues, and some stake in the rules...but how do you tell?

They could still access current forum. I don't see any need for me to sort thru most of what they say but I do want to hear from the technical director and licensed scrutineers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce
How about the new guys who are building a new car and intend to start competing?

Limited to current forum. When they are licensed, they get the secret handshake. Refer to current SS.com post selling rallycar stating " I’ve spent the last 3 years tinkering with my 86 Golf GTI 8 valve with the goal of preparing it for a future as a rally car. But....blah, blah, blah $3000."

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Originally Posted by Bruce
Longtime workers?

Those on organizing committees or submitted by event chairmans.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce
Scrutineers?

Licensed, yes.

Pat Richard manages the Canadian competitor email forum list. Ask him if its rocket science? No pun intended with Rocket Racing.

We have SS.com. What I am proposing is a real dialog tool.
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Watch this guy, he's been an expert forever sitting over there on the other side.


What is it that makes co-drivers think the are so goddamn smart when they have so little experience in anything other that paying others to build their street cars???

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2006 04:50PM by john vanlandingham.

Tovarich VanLandingamov,

In the land of blinds one eyed man becomes the king.

There is your answer.

Cheers
M.Samli

I just went and read the RA forum. Nothing but a bunch of asskissers and genious who thinks he can interpret FIA rules and impose his version of it based on his own (limited) comprehension. Guys, if we are going to use the FIA rules let's use them all for homologated cars, FIA allows ASN's byrules to be used in National and Regional events. WTF does this guy have aspirations of having a WRC event here or is he thinking that we should have FIA International rules for our rallies.

Old Turkish proverb, If you give a gypsy some leverage, he first hangs his dad from the nearest tree.

Cheers
M.Samli

john vanlandingham Wrote:
> > What is it that makes co-drivers think the are so
> goddamn smart when they have so little experience
> in anything other that paying others to build
> their street cars???

John,

Whats the matter, get your panties in a twist becasue they booted you off RallyAmerica forum and need to blame me because you couldn't control yourself so come here to cry about it? Boo-hoo.

Alot has changed since your internet snooping that you posted on SS.com years ago when you pronounced that because I was employed by the Transit Authority, I knew nothing about cars or working on them. Wrong. To set the record straight, for the past 3 years I am the manager of a large Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and Aston Martin dealership's collision center that sold $10 million in repairs last year. I have 30 techs that report to me each with more current knowledge than then dwindling aniquated dribble data you post. I bet every month I have 1 repair invoice worth more $ than you make all year. Some expert car builder you are, seems you work out of your house and judging from the photos its a junkyard.

While I can afford to pay others to build my cars because I'm heavily financially compensated for managing real technicians for rebuilding high-end luxury and sports cars owned by other snobby helpless non-mechanically-inclined people like myself, I certainly won't be sending my cars or money your way. Seems people like Morton weren't satisified with your work and your clientele just doesn't stack upto say Vermont SC or AutoSport and I've seen your customer service and excuses posted all over these forums.

Maybe you are just jealous I own more and better cars/trucks than you and have to justify them as I paid someone to build. Think again. I have 2 hands, am not afraid of getting them dirty and know how to turn a wrench. I buy the parts I want and then go install them. Simple. Quit patting yourself on the back for what you learned in high school autoshop.

Your "friend",
Dave Shindle

CommanderSalamander Wrote:
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> john vanlandingham Wrote:
> > > What is it that makes co-drivers think
> the are so
> > goddamn smart when they have so little
> experience
> > in anything other that paying others to
> build
> > their street cars???
>
> John,
>
> Whats the matter, get your panties in a twist
> becasue they booted you off RallyAmerica forum and
> need to blame me because you couldn't control
> yourself so come here to cry about it? Boo-hoo.

Didn't know I was booted off, Asswipe.
And Dave, you didn't address the first question... why?

Has your suggestion met with success???
>
> Alot has changed since your internet snooping
> that you posted on SS.com years ago when you
> pronounced that because I was employed by the
> Transit Authority, I knew nothing about cars or
> working on them. Wrong.

Internet snooping??
It was YOUR fucking homepage fuckhead, if it said something wrong, don't blame me.
Ashamed about what you had written there?
You know very little, you just think you do...




To set the record
> straight, for the past 3 years I am the manager of
> a large Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and Aston Martin
> dealership's collision center that sold $10
> million in repairs last year.


OOOoooooooooohhhhh---did YOU build that?


I have 30 techs that
> report to me each with more current knowledge than
> then dwindling aniquated dribble data you post.

Who cares about those type of car?
Nobody here, dumb fuck, this is a RALLY site.


But fine, fuckhead, that's what they're interested in so whoopie-doo.

Hoiw does THEIR knowledge and expertise make YOU some big macher??
It doesn't.

I
> bet every month I have 1 repair invoice worth more
> $ than you make all year. Some expert car builder
> you are, seems you work out of your house and
> judging from the photos its a junkyard.

I bet my dick is tweice as big as yours and I know I've had more pussy than you'll EVER have.

(Are you bright enough to begin to see the absurdity of your pitiful boasting?)


>
> While I can afford to pay others to build my cars
> because I'm heavily financially compensated for

But I am sure you are severly inadequate in other areas which is transparent from your compulsive need to crow so loudly about your really rather common acheivements.
There are hundreds and thousands of small time managers in just this country alone.

This IS a motorsport forum, and in motorsports I was already RETIRED from being a full time professional when I was your age, YOU are a mere amature and co-driver, nothing YOU can do approaches what I did by the time I was your age.
In THIS world, you are just a conceted punk wannabe, and an immature one too again judging from your misapprehention of your worth.


> managing real technicians for rebuilding high-end
> luxury and sports cars owned by other snobby
> helpless non-mechanically-inclined people like
> myself, I certainly won't be sending my cars or
> money your way. Seems people like Morton weren't
> satisified with your work and your clientele just
> doesn't stack upto say Vermont SC or AutoSport and
> I've seen your customer service and excuses posted
> all over these forums.

One chronic complainer with extremely selective grip on the truth?
AHHH I see why you feel an affinity.
But numb-nuts, I am not trying to have a clientele like those shops, I like more down to earth people, not people LIKE YOU.
>
> Maybe you are just jealous I own more and better
> cars/trucks than you and have to justify them as I
> paid someone to build.

Trust me Shindle, I am not jealous of anybody, but particularly not little local wannbes like you.
You don't realise it but by my meaure you are a loser.




Think again. I have 2
> hands, am not afraid of getting them dirty and
> know how to turn a wrench. I buy the parts I want
> and then go install them. Simple. Quit patting
> yourself on the back for what you learned in high
> school autoshop.

I didn't take high school auto shop, wasn't interested in cars, and autoshop was full of whiner boys somewhat identical to you.
I learned working on real Competition motorcycles, and worked on CARS only to the degree needed to get to races from one end of Europe to the other.
And as cars are in essence junk, I had a lot of practice.

But as for antiquaited knowledge,


Wow!!!
You're right, I built a 02 Subie motor for Dave Hintz and after winning all sorts of things all last year, running like a clock,and the beginning of this season, it seems it lost oil pressure this weekend at Olympus. I better start thinking up excuses.

Hey Dave, when was the last motor that YOU built that won a National?

Ever?
How about a National Championship in any class???



You ever build ONE motor that won maybe a stage???

Never???
Then you are a loud mouthed loser asshole.

You fail to see that others measure things, including their own self-worth and success by a different measures than you do, and that is because you are of only mediocre intelligence and too self centered.
Plenty of people have achieved exactly the same things that YOU have done.


I've had 2 of the people you have sat beside as co-driver write and apologize for your stupid arrogance, they said they were puzzled, I said it makes no difference
>
> Your "friend",
No you aren't my friend, my friends aren't assholes.

You should be ashamed at your inflated view of just who you are, it's pitiful really.
Just how is it that you so fundementally misunderstand your puny position in the world? Why do you and a few other mere co-drivers think they are so special when you really haven't done ANYTHING particularly interesting YOURSELF??
> Dave Shindle


By the way Shindle, as a measure of your very lack of professionalism, THIS letter shows you are a small person.
You bring shame to "Team Mazda" and to the hard work that Lurch has done.

You would do yourself and the sport some good if you grew up and realised your limitations because your are a nobody in the grand scheme of things.

You know in re-reading this, I think I smell some "projection", it was that feeble jealousy comment, yep I think that's what is going on here, you know you have made your choices in life and you know you will never be anything in motorsports, nothing but a hanger on, a mere co-driver.

Is that it Dave?

---

John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2006 01:15AM by john vanlandingham.

Nice steering rack hack job. Some expert you are.

There is a lot more to rallying than just prepping cars. I'm glad you get your rocks off thinking you are so great. Everyone here who hasn't ASSembled a motor as good as John, you are idiots. All hail John.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2006 09:08AM by CommanderSalamander.

Same whiny little boy crap dave used to pull at the DC region rallycrosses before he made it "big time"---its absurd even when it is in quotes :-)

CommanderSalamander Wrote:
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> Nice steering rack hack job. Some expert you are.

What are you referring to, Einstein?
Presumably Mortens nice Saab 96 conversion?
I gave the rack to my friendPaul Morgan who did the job, you don't like it?
Is it worse than the 4.3 turn steering box that it had,
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY 19 YEARS AGO??


>
>
> There is a lot more to rallying than just prepping
> cars. I'm glad you get your rocks off thinking you
> are so great. Everyone here who hasn't ASSembled a
> motor as good as John, you are idiots. All hail
> John.
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at May 24, 2006 by
> CommanderSalamander.

Yep there is, there's also driving.

Got you beat there numb nuts.


Like a true dickless wonder, you sling a lot of shit and don't follow thru, don't answer or concede anything.

THAT's why you're a whiney co-driver.

I don't think I'm all that fantastic, but I know that I can help people at with thingsfrom basic building all the way to winning Club events and National Gp2 titles, AND HAVE ALREADY DONE SO, AND HAVE DONE FOR 20 YEARS you pitiful little punk.
And I readily share the information so that more people can know good solid build techniques and EQUIPMENT SELECTION rather than mindless consumerist knee jerk consumption.

You're are true coward, Shindle.
You sling shit about "antiquated" dribble, but no respone when I say I built a fucking modern motor that goes reliably for a full season and WINS.
If you're such a fuckin genious, WHY HAVEN'T YOU SORTED ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE HIGH BUDGET RIDE YOU'RE RIDING IN?

There's also general encouragement, and helping people when it's looking like the sport will be over-run by whining rich-boy idiots, guys like you for example.



And you still haven't told us how you idea for a secret "in crowd only" forum has panned out...

Or why it is that co-drivers think they are such brilliant all knowing geniuses, when it appears that some are just delusional. Like you.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Did the pair of you shit in each other's Wheaties?

Perhaps the both of you deserve some time in the 'Sin-Bin' for this one.

Bon Appetite!!

John Lane

---

JohnLane

Volvo 260turbo AKA The Fire Breathing Monster
Overkill is consistently more fun

John has never met me nor known my contributions to the sport. Yet he continues to post including starting this very post attacking me as a codriving punk. Guess what, rally is a team sport. Without a codriver the driver would be lost or crash just as without a good mechanic the team would DNF. I found the niche I do best.

Besides codriving, I have been event chairman, event steward, safety steward, sweep captain, will be course opening at RallyWV, have prepared organizer supplied stagenotes including those at WildWest, marshall, crew, .....most on many different occasions. Much more than just a codriver geek. John's contribution beside providing prep and parts is bashing people he doesn't even know. Just look at his Matt Bushmore post. Its none of his business.

Its a case of grumpy old has-been threatened by those involved now wanting to stroke his ego.

john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> CommanderSalamander Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice steering rack hack job. Some expert you
> are.
>
> What are you referring to, Einstein?
> Presumably Mortens nice Saab 96 conversion?
> I gave the rack to my friendPaul Morgan who did
> the job, you don't like it?
> Is it worse than the 4.3 turn steering box that it
> had,
> WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY 19 YEARS
> AGO??

Fellow codriver Snob Mark Williams just paid my in-laws to install one of these shiny new steering racks with correct angles for steering shaft in his Falcon.

http://totalcontrolproducts.com/rack.html

They also have available if you have to be a cheap-ass enough to attempt to use a SaabV4 steering rack, high-misalignment universal joints.

Anyhow, I would have made it work rather than posting excuses.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2006 12:20PM by CommanderSalamander.

CommanderSalamander Wrote:
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> John has never met me nor known my contributions
> to the sport. Yet he continues to post including
> starting this very post attacking me as a
> codriving punk.
No, I don't know you except from the silly private emails and bad advice sent to that woman in Utah, all of it wrong.


Guess what, rally is a team sport.

NO!!!! You don't say??
And as i said, 2 of your drivers, YOUR OWN TEAMMATES have written and in one case verbally apologized for YOUR behavior.


> Without a codriver the driver would be lost or
> crash just as without a good mechanic the team
> would DNF. I found the niche I do best.

Wait, weren't you just bragging what a high paid body shop manager you were???
>
> Besides codriving, I have been event chairman,
> event steward, safety steward, sweep captain, will
> be course opening at RallyWV, have prepared
> organizer supplied stagenotes including those at
> WildWest, marshall, crew, .....most on many
> different occasions.

As have many many MANY others, why does that make you think that YOU are special?




Much more than just a
> codriver geek. John's contribution beside
> providing prep and parts is bashing people he
> doesn't even know. Just look at his Matt Bushmore
> post. Its none of his business.

Bushore is another of those "let's be pleasant" type guys while complaining bitterly behind people's back. The post was "what's with this guy?" That indicates genuine confusion as to why he is so bitter and slanted.
>
> Its a case of grumpy old has-been threatened by
> those involved now wanting to stroke his ego.

Far better a HAS BEEN, than a "Never was", but I will contest the grumpy part.
Just yesterday Leon Styles called and we were both intermittantly howling with laughter about how much fun he had over the weekend, and double howling when I pointed out how giggly he was a full day later in an event where he had motor problems..

See, Shindle, THAT's what you don't understand becuase you have this overly-serious take on all this (again because you really don't work on the cars you just sit in), but what drives this whole sport is JUST HOW FUCKIN MUCH FUN THE DRIVING OF EVEN SIMPLER (BUT WELL EXECUTED) CARS IS .

YOU really haven't put much sustained effort into ANY of the things you listed, YOU didn't build the dealershiip or the body shop where you work, you didn't build the car (or answer "Why haven't YOU figured out what all the problems the poor car has been having are---with all you access to such expertise), you just fiddle with the details,you're involemnt is superficial: THAT's why YOU're so bitter.

Earlier when you we're shitting from your mouth the crap about I "maybe am jealous because you have "more and better" cars" (which is an assumption on your part) you made a massive error when you presumed that I am impressed by merely OWNING some "cars and trucks".

I read that to John Lane who called and was laughing about this thread and I said "The idiot completely misunderstands things----his OWNING things doesn't phase me at all, just like you (John L) owning a business that employs 15 people and sits on land worth 6 million bucks"

"What impresses me is what PEOPLE BUILD and what they DO, and in this case DRIVE what they build, and how much they LAUGH ABOUT THINGS."



THAT's why you're an asswipe Shindle, you're too serious, same as Bushore, too fucking boringly serious.

So fuck off; go impress the boys that you hang with who are impressed by BITTER GROUCHY young guys.

Just a note Shindle, since you clearly have not been around any real motorsports Professionals, "as been" or otherwise: they are more like ME than you, more concerned with building and DRIVING and laughing our heads off.


>
>
>

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

> >

> > WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY 19
> YEARS
> > AGO??
>
> Fellow codriver Snob Mark Williams just paid my
> in-laws to install one of these shiny new steering
> racks with correct angles for steering shaft in
> his Falcon.


Power Rack with Installation Kit
TCP RCKPS-FD
MSRP: $2000.00 and up

OOOoooooooooo only $2000.00 plus installation from your in-laws..
Did he have to suck your cock to get a special price????
>
>
>
> They also have available if you have to be a
> cheap-ass enough to attempt to use a SaabV4
> steering rack, high-misalignment universal joints.

Yep looks like you have to use those for Falcons too
TCP ISFT-02 - (Falcon/Comet) - high-misalignment universal joints, cut-to-length shaft


>
>
> Anyhow, I would have made it work rather than
> posting excuses.

Well it worked good enough for years before when somebody bothered to set the alignment which Morten was told before he ever bought the car.

But----YOU wuld have??!!! Or Your father in law, who by the way is much more of a man than you, at least from the times I spoke with him.


You're pitiful.

>
>
>
> Edited 1 times. Last edit at May 24, 2006 by
> CommanderSalamander.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Snigger.

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Nick Taylor.
Knobhead.
Los Angeles, CA.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2006 12:57PM by nick the brit.

john vanlandingham Wrote:
> you
> didn't build the car (or answer "Why haven't YOU
> figured out what all the problems the poor car has
> been having are---with all you access to such
> expertise),

What problems? Eric won 2wd in every stage at RallyNY last month. I don't work on car only because its a thousand miles from here idiot.

> "What impresses me is what PEOPLE BUILD and what
> they DO, and in this case DRIVE what they build,
> and how much they LAUGH ABOUT THINGS."

You keep talking about driving. Haven't seen you drive on the stages in eons. So why are you better than everyone else again?