Toni's bit of Anarchy
Posted by derek
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derek Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > What I like most about Toni's M3 project - it give > a chance for the mortals (us) to have a go at him. > Sure his M3 is very nicely done but it cost no > more then many of the cars running here in the USA > - it is atainable. > > When I see Toni's in car video I know he is doing > that in a car I could have, where as when I see > Lobe driving down a stage I have no idea how much > is Lobe and how much is a car I will never drive. Well there you see the big dichotomy in the world, and the one that splits culture and some of the people's "vision"f what rally should be. With that car we, and I mean probably most of us here, identify and "relate" and think "Yeah! I can see me doing (something kinda) that!" Then there the others who wish us to be obedient consumers just watching a complete packaged thing, and even if it is rally cars spewing gravel, they're now only a small part of the "complete package", and some of us just aren't very good at being automoton like consumers (insert Homer Simpsonesque "must consume-must consume" 
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Well there you see the big dichotomy in the world, > and the one that splits > culture and some of the people's "vision"f what > rally should be. > With that car we, and I mean probably most of us > here, identify and "relate" and think > "Yeah! I can see me doing (something kinda) > that!" > > Then there the others who wish us to be obedient > consumers just watching a complete packaged > thing, and even if it is rally cars spewing > gravel, they're now only a small part of the > "complete package", and some of us just aren't > very good at being automoton like consumers > (insert Homer Simpsonesque "must consume-must > consume"
John, I agree with you. That's why I like the S2000 class and am quite happy that the Eurosport coverage of the IRC is now watchable (but still not as good as the WRC coverage). I know you won't like this and it's a bit of an aside, but I think the reason why a lot of men in their 20s start drooling and fiddling in their pockets when they see a hot Subaru and could care less about a Focus... even though Subaru hasn't won a WRC event in living memory, while the Focus is quite successful in WRC. Is because you can pretend a hot Subaru is nearly a WRC car, but you'd have to be on some serious drugs to think the North American Focus is. Andrew M Onterrible 30ish |
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Yeah, I'm not really surprised, even though I always thought that Ford Europe wasn't nearly as stupid as Ford North America. Even the base model Subaru with a manual is fun to drive.
His and Hers rally cars would be cool for sure! So your wife actually encourages your rally habit? Wow you're lucky  Andrew M Onterrible 30ish |
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