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Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 02:37PM
I found out why my computer wasnt working. It had the universal speedo probe and i had bypassed that when i installed the new speedo cable. Not knowing what it was for exactly. The old pseedo had twisted off and left a small piece jammed in the probe. I was going to put the computer in my truck.

1. can I use a wheel probe in place of the speedo?
2. which wheel should i be placing the probe on or should i use a probe on the driveshaft?


reason im asking is i see on the pinout plug-ins for 2 probes and a speedo.



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 02:43PM
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I found out why my computer wasnt working. It had the universal speedo probe and i had bypassed that when i installed the new speedo cable. Not knowing what it was for exactly. The old pseedo had twisted off and left a small piece jammed in the probe. I was going to put the computer in my truck.

1. can I use a wheel probe in place of the speedo?
2. which wheel should i be placing the probe on or should i use a probe on the driveshaft?


reason im asking is i see on the pinout plug-ins for 2 probes and a speedo.

Wheel probe proximity sender has been the smart choice since they became available back in the early 80s...only hard thing is fabbing some bracket to hold it and at least 4 stud heads to look at within 1/4"



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 02:50PM
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I found out why my computer wasnt working. It had the universal speedo probe and i had bypassed that when i installed the new speedo cable. Not knowing what it was for exactly. The old pseedo had twisted off and left a small piece jammed in the probe. I was going to put the computer in my truck.

1. can I use a wheel probe in place of the speedo?
2. which wheel should i be placing the probe on or should i use a probe on the driveshaft?


reason im asking is i see on the pinout plug-ins for 2 probes and a speedo.

What rally computer do you have?

It is best to put a probe on an un-driven wheel. It lessens any wheel spin you will have. Although nowadays with notes, an accurate odo on stage is becoming less and less necessary (unless you get lost in the notes)
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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 03:30PM
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I found out why my computer wasnt working. It had the universal speedo probe and i had bypassed that when i installed the new speedo cable. Not knowing what it was for exactly. The old pseedo had twisted off and left a small piece jammed in the probe. I was going to put the computer in my truck.

1. can I use a wheel probe in place of the speedo?
2. which wheel should i be placing the probe on or should i use a probe on the driveshaft?


reason im asking is i see on the pinout plug-ins for 2 probes and a speedo.


In the Golf I and II that means a bit of a pain due to the way the hub and disc is a 1 piece thing and the stud heads are deep down in the assembly..
Of course the whole stock rear disc set up is a giant POS and I've shown the way to ditch that crap and mod a drum into a nice hub---then the stud heads are easy access, and rotor choice is enhanced and mounting a probe is a snap.
What rally computer do you have?

It is best to put a probe on an un-driven wheel. It lessens any wheel spin you will have. Although nowadays with notes, an accurate odo on stage is becoming less and less necessary (unless you get lost in the notes)



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 03:41PM
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What rally computer do you have?

It is best to put a probe on an un-driven wheel. It lessens any wheel spin you will have. Although nowadays with notes, an accurate odo on stage is becoming less and less necessary (unless you get lost in the notes)

its a terratrip. 202 i think?


John, its going into the Dodge. The wabbit is going to a new home.
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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 05:54PM
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What rally computer do you have?

It is best to put a probe on an un-driven wheel. It lessens any wheel spin you will have. Although nowadays with notes, an accurate odo on stage is becoming less and less necessary (unless you get lost in the notes)

its a terratrip. 202 i think?


John, its going into the Dodge. The wabbit is going to a new home.

What Doodge? Pick up?



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 06:07PM
My big silver Dodge Ram. going to put the computer in there.
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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 06:20PM
OH OK whatever. dare I ask why?



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 06:23PM
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OH OK whatever. dare I ask why?

For da Halibut.

Or Triple/Double/Zero Car...



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December 23, 2013 06:45PM
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OH OK whatever. dare I ask why?

For da Halibut.

Or Triple/Double/Zero Car...

Boyz gwan to Norf Caroliner, hain't no halibuts in dem hills.



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Re: Noob rally computer question
December 23, 2013 06:51PM
Just for the hell of it. i was going to see if i could condition the wife to possible navigator while driving to NC.
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Re: Noob rally computer question
January 07, 2016 11:30AM
I know someone posted this somewhere, due to me asking this somewhere. But im losing my mind and cant find it anywhere.

I thought someone told me I could use the signal wire from the ODO and tap into the signal wire the truck uses for its ODO. Is this true? With helping our in Sandblast, Id like to be more helpful. Step one is getting this Terratrip in there. Then the HAM.
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Re: Noob rally computer question
January 07, 2016 11:58AM
i have used a terra trip vss adapter in my mirage in years past, but i don't see it listed anymore



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Re: Noob rally computer question
January 07, 2016 12:19PM
if I remember right, most rally odos need some sort of divider/amp/??? adapter when being driven from a Vehicle Speed Sensor (vss) like you're asking.

My Monit came (from ebay) with one that I wired into a VSS line on my 4Runner for sweep/volunteer usage, works great.

looks like maybe you need a terratrip "Dual Sensor Interface"?
http://www.rallysport.ca/rally_equip/files/Terratrip_Dual_Sensor_Interface.PDF



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Re: Noob rally computer question
January 07, 2016 02:25PM
Yes, you need the 'prescaler' box to use VSS signal with a terrortrip (or brantz)

Wheel sensor on an un-driven wheel is best if you can do it.

I'm now using a GPS based sensor on my Coralba which makes it a bit more portable and easy to install.

Sweep trucks with working odos are a nice thing to have.



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