2.3L duratec to NC miata transmission?
Posted by Mad Matt F
Mad Matt F Matt Follett Elite Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
Okay, so um, this car might run some TSD's so its rally chat right? I thought I would ask my questions here, rather then the B site where the typical answer is 4L buick motor or stock...
I have a pretty much stock '69 MGB GT with the 4spd transmission. Fun car, slow, noisy and rolls at 3800 rpm down the highway. I could get an overdrive transmission ($600) and it would be happier in modern traffic, but it would still be slow. I could build up the 1.8L all iron tractor motor, but it would still be slow, and that would cost more then I spend on rally in a whole year... Ranger duratecs are getting cheap, sump is right, I can bolt on some carbs and keep my current low pressure fuel system, just need to light up ignition, but I think that shouldn't be an issue. Problem is transmission. Shifter would be under the dash if I use the ranger transmission. I could make up a remote to move it further back, but it looks like I would have to lift the tunnel a fair bit. I'm not opposed to that, but would avoid it if I could. It "seems" like the NC miata transmissions will bolt up with a tailshaft shifter! But scouring the interweeb, I can't seem to confirm this. Anybody know? |
EvanB Evan Arthur Professional Moderator Location: Columbus, OH Join Date: 08/20/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 17 |
According to this discussion you shouldn't have a problem:
http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14753 |
Mad Matt F Matt Follett Elite Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
yep, just found that one...
Althought it seems I may be then again looking for high priced transmissions... Local yard price is $1000 to $1650 for the Miata Transmission... If so, this discussion will go nowhere fast! I'm sure the NC miata's are still pricy whole too. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2014 01:42PM by Mad Matt F. |
EvanB Evan Arthur Professional Moderator Location: Columbus, OH Join Date: 08/20/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 17 |
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Mad Matt F Matt Follett Elite Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
Yep... Interesting project, and a ton of work to do well I think. I'm going to measure up the tunnel some more and think about a remote shifter. Whole ranger motor/transmission seems easier then sourcing seperate parts. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
FAWK! I can draw you up plans to do a remote on a T5---or anything that has a bolt on stick on top.. Simple stuff like you and i like.. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Mad Matt F Matt Follett Elite Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
Exactement! Now John, can you build suspension for a B???? (Joking, joking, don't even think I'm serious...) |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Silent e en Francasie, mon sewer.. I think that's where we got silent e at end of words in Angleski Yeah I had a guy want to do the T5 thang in a Volvo 740 K-car limo and you have to have extentions so I was downstairs having a ciggie and saw a shock eye wif a 15mm ID bearing, a couple of my Sooooper bitchin stainless shock spacers-BOF! (francaise for Pooof!) there your shifter end. Then a plate to bolt on top of the gearstick cover---low skill just has to be a hole and 3-4 bolt hole--we can manage that---and extend to the hole in da tunnel. The weld on top of da plate2 D shaped ears wif a 12mm hole--send a 12mm bolt thru the ears and the inverted shock eye. Then some ol iron bar threaded m12 x 1 to screw in to the eyelet. The spherical bearing will move for gating 1-2 and 3-4 and the just a straight rod from stick to the stud stickin outta the box..both are above pivot so motion isn't reversed. Tres simple, manure! John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
fidel lawrence knox Mega Moderator Location: RVA richmond va Join Date: 03/11/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 61 Rally Car: 78" volvo 242 |
how much farther back does the shifter need to be ,the commodore and holden shifter locations are farther back that the standard merican gm and ford t5s. lawrence knox aka fidel knox motorspors knoxmotorsports.us |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
The Aussie tailshaft housings are right about the same as US GM, so good for Xratty and 240 That extension thing idea was so a guy could get the stick in the middle of the hole for 7 series. Matt seem to indicate that "the stick would be under the dash" so prolly a real extention is needed.. Now in yet one more ironic things I have discovered--ironic cuase I ain't a Volvo ---especially the 7 series (erp---I think I just threw up a little) it just soooooooooooooo happens there is an actual OEM fitted T5 extension dealie available right here in 'merica... Once again The Outside figures out a stupidly simple solution that the alleged heros and ex-spurts working full time on Volvos can't figure out---and like the saab PP interchange and 215/228 upgrade thing, it is precicely BECAUSE I am not a Volvo-fixated perv that I fingered this out.. Come here, closer...youse want me to tells ya what the "I think this will be possibly Soooooper Bitchin" extension comes off of? OK I will---if you tell me bellhousing front face to stick length... Then we know if the OEM thing will be cool---and we can go taunt the ex-spurts---and even ask "Hoe is it decades after people start using T6s nobody had a solution......except an outsider? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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