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Cog Conspiracy?

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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
September 25, 2007 08:44AM
tedm Wrote:
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> I am sitting here with my attorney Raoul Duke who
> is going through the 2007 RA rulebook. He says
> that the only penalty that he can find
> specifically calls for a loss of 5 championship
> points is Art. 8.2. OTHER PENALTIES C. ADDITIONAL
> PENALTIES 12. "loss of 5 championship points for
> second offense of tampering with event equipment
> during a Championship year", which is on page 63
>
>
> Ted Mendham
> www.rensport.net


Isn't it obvious... they built a remote that interferes with the stage start timing gear and lets them leave 5 seconds early. They used it again after getting caught once before (which was kept quite... obviously!).


Not entirely impossible, but a joke!

I think the pace notes theory sounds very likely.

-Martin.
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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
September 25, 2007 08:14PM
MRWmotorsports Wrote:
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>> I think the pace notes theory sounds very likely.

Rulebook says (8.2C5)penalties for Practice and Pace Notes is Exclusion and/or other penalties. Doubt any steward would not exclude a team caught with pacenotes.

Hiding the use of pacenotes mandates the 5 championship points (8.2C12)and a $1000 fine (8.2B11).

Rulebook also says (7.1C) each event should conduct at least one control to check for the presence of pace notes in competing cars. Never have I encountered an observation control searching for them. Think this should become an event requirement, not a recomendation.

I know nothing about circumstances at Cog and could care less, just reviewing the rulebook.



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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
September 26, 2007 02:03PM
Now it sounds like something that happened earlier got announced on the board at Cog.

See Niday's post on RA forum. A bit late, but it clarifies the current RA championship points.



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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
October 03, 2007 03:51PM
I hope no one on my crew ever gets caught doing whatever it was that someone did somewhere, someplace.
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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
October 03, 2007 06:45PM
Was the porta-john destroyed and somebody took a leak behind their van and offend somebody?

Did somebody accidentally mistake the Cuervo for brake fluid?

Perhaps a corporate mucky-muck ran the stages in a rental for laughs?

Did Edstrom's new "pop-up" roof vent Red Cross not pass muster with Hurst?

Inquiring minds want to know! And a "professional" series would let you know. Think of the sports bookies!



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Re: Cog Cover-up?
October 04, 2007 11:05AM
Several years ago, I thought the SCCA (Secret Car Club of America) turned the "Pro"-Rally(tm) program over to some cutting-edge rally specific organization developed specifically to do a better job of running the Pro-Rally(tm) Championship.

I dooo dig the old Sat-dish (which I have been told was stolen from in front of a double wide at 4:00AM) on top of the box-truck, though. I still expect Agent Mulder, or at Least Barbarella to be in there. I would put X-mas lights on it, get some PA horns and blast mariachi music, too.

Maybe the new organization should hire a team of experts (who can communicate with co-workers, write press releases and add up championship points) to administrate the Rally-America National Rally Championship. ;-)

Can you still read what happened regarding rule changes and penalties, each month, in SportCar Magazine's FasTrack section?









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Re: Cog Cover-up?
October 04, 2007 11:49AM
RA Truck needs CHANGO treatment!

I think there's some big rules pull-out section in SportsCar, but I don't belong to the SCCA anymore. But I think if you get a set of monster reading glasses and a magnifying glass, there is some info there about some dude in a Focus autocross car wanting to know why the Civic autocross cars can be 400 lbs lighter, or words to that effect.



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Re: Cog Conspiracy?
October 04, 2007 12:45PM
MRWmotorsports Wrote:
> Isn't it obvious... they built a remote that
> interferes with the stage start timing gear and
> lets them leave 5 seconds early. They used it
> again after getting caught once before (which was
> kept quite... obviously!).

You don't have to build a remote that interferes with the start timing gear: there isn't any start timing gear. There's a clock. It's for display. There are no light beams, no alarms, no detection. Have you _ever_ seen a "jump the start" penalty listed? Nope. So the finish is timed to the tenth, but you can pretty much start whenever you want.

I've never been able to understand how that makes for "accuracy".

???

Anders



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