jv's analogies

Pete and I discussed which of us should be insulted by being compared to each other by jv. After all, Pete and I usually disagree completely on politics as my politics are much closer to jv's than Pete's. I am considered a flaming liberal while Pete is a stick-in-the-mud conservative. Both Pete and I decided that because we can carry on a dialouge without ranting or profanity, we really don't care what jv thinks. After all when either Pete or I get mad at the other, we don't start foaming at the mouth and get the other persons ankles all wet.

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RichardM

I figured that was the story behind your cryptic posts on SS.com.

Ehhh, whatever.

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Andrew Steere
Lyndeborough, NH
KB1PJY

Pete's message box was filled up and I couldn't find his e-mail in my list. Other than that, it was a big conspiracy. And ehhh is the same reaction Pete and I have toward jv.

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RichardM



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2008 02:59PM by Richard Miller.

In any civilised society, those who are dishonest, or spread malicious gossip, usually find themselves shunned or ostracized.

You and the Morris share no politics, and you think that because you present a facade of propiety that you are somehow morally superior.
But we know that behind people's backs, when you believe they aren't aware, you are a liar and you defame people, specifically me.

Why should we show anything resembling a civil tone towards you when you, when you think nobody is looking, have fabricated and posted lies, about me?

You make lame protestations of innocence, but that does not efface your lies formed from whole cloth.

As such, you are morally equivalent of Morris despite having political opinions hugely divergent from his essentially inchoherant, sado-machcochist lumpen-reactionary extreme Authoritarian ravings.

So the similarities: both having a "sceen persona" which is classic intra-web troll, trying to incite reactions while studiously acting innocent, blathering about things you both know nothiog about, and don't care, the contrast to the real world personas, makes you well suited to be his buddy.

You are seen through, Richardtaff.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Curses! Foiled again! Alas jv has found out that my entire purpose in life is to bug him.

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RichardM

Pete Morris isn't worth a thought in my mind. A geniune cunt.

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Grant Hughes

Now Grant, I know you can use the English language better than that. Use some of those old fashioned western terms like lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut. Or a more modern term from the last century like 'he's to the right of Hitler'. Or if you wish to be insulting, expound upon the waste of good air he uses. Although since he lives in LA, I doubt he breathes much good air.

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RichardM

Seriously, you both need to grow up. Richard, stop provoking stuff, John, Ignore him.

If you both behave, you get ice cream! (although John probably wont eat it, just like he hates pizza, american's eating cheese, and soda. )

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Aw Timm, it's so much fun. And so easy.

Seriously though, when jv or any one else state things that are not true (note, this is not saying that any one is lying as to lie requires that you know the truth) this error needs to be corrected. john stated as a fact the reason why Rally America requires competitors start out in a Group 2 or Production car. His statement implies that he was party to the decision. Given john's relationships with Rally America, it is highly improbable that he would know any thing about the reasons behind Rally America's thought process. As a Rally America organizer, I may have a little more incite. But I do not know the full logic. Therefore, when jv spouts something that is completely contrary to both logic and public statements, I simply state that he is wrong. I do not accuse him of lying through his teeth. After all, I don't even know if he still has his own teeth.

After all, even john has his short comings.
Richard

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RichardM

Im just messing with the both of you. And his teeth appear to be his own... I dont think he's english......

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Richard Miller Wrote:
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> Aw Timm, it's so much fun. And so easy.

You're a fucking troll, and you admit it.
I think you should be exiled to the Sin bin.
>
> Seriously though, when jv or any one else state
> things that are not true (note, this is not saying
> that any one is lying as to lie requires that you
> know the truth) this error needs to be corrected.

But since you are a proven malicious liar, awho the fuck are you to set any record straight?
You credibility is nil.

You were transparant even within 2 posts over on Rallyforum.com in the thread where the Swedish guy was asking about US rules. The fellow saw that you had never posted there and were responding to give the "party Line", same as Hurst. A couple of people there wrote PMs laughing at how transparent you slant is, including the original poster---who by the way thanked me for an honest answer.

> john stated as a fact the reason why Rally America
> requires competitors start out in a Group 2 or
> Production car.

A stated some WELL KNOWN incidents in the background of the individuals in the Corporation who are the ones who MAKE UP whatever the hell rule they want, seemingly with no thought at all.

Only an idiot would speculate on whatever passes for a thought process from that collection of amateurs just as it would be fruitless to ponder why you do what you do.
We all have had an continue to have little to no information on why either SCCA or these corporate goons do what they do, but we know they are dishonest, and moral cowards, and as such beneath contempt.
Since you lie like a dog, it's not surprising you think they are nice fellows.


His statement implies that he was
> party to the decision.

It did not.

Given john's relationships
> with Rally America,


I have no relationship with Rally America.

it is highly improbable that
> he would know any thing about the reasons behind
> Rally America's thought process.

It is stupid that you make assumptions based on your own false construct.


As a Rally
> America organizer, I may have a little more
> incite.


The word is "insight"
But you give your real motives away for following me around naysaying and trying to pick fights, you intention, just like GHurst is to "incite" and that as I have said is to use your favorite word for me "boorish" or clearer : a fuck waste of skin troll.

But I do not know the full logic.
> Therefore, when jv spouts something that is
> completely contrary to both logic and public
> statements, I simply state that he is wrong. I do
> not accuse him of lying through his teeth. After
> all, I don't even know if he still has his own
> teeth.

Completely? Timewasting troll, I statewd that the talentless Havir dove into the sport with a turbo 4wd car, then a bazzillion dollar Pro-drive Subaru then proceeded to flip that car 3-4 times in the next 3 seasons.

All that is true. And you know that.
=That renders you flat statement of fact that what I said is "contrary to logic and public statements" a knowingly false statement.
You are once again a liar, and a slimey one at that.
>
> After all, even john has his short comings.

We all do. Dishonesty is not one of them however.

> RichardTaff
>
> RichardM

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Well, if you say his teeth are his own, I'll believe you. But I did hear a nasty rumor about a bike rider in Sweden who now has to gum his lutefisk.

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RichardM

john vanlandingham Wrote:
> Only an idiot would speculate on whatever passes
> for a thought process from that collection of
> amateurs just as it would be fruitless to ponder
> why you do what you do.
Don't be so hard on yourself john. You really aren't an idiot even though you often do just such speculation.

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RichardM

Richard, don't you have an event to organize ? From what I've heard you should be working on improving your event rather than bonding with JVL.

Okay Gene, I'll quit picking on john. I just couldn't resist that last one.

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RichardM