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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 08, 2006 10:43PM
Yeah it's a b16 99.9% sure now. The floor pans on my beast have been done once before.. going to have to cut them all out and put in new ones.. not a big deal since I will be putting in a larger transmision tunnel as well.

As per your suspension question.. you're right.. I don't know how the shock works effectively, but it does work.. see picture



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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 09, 2006 04:27AM
I went out and stared at it some more tonight and did some measuring. The shock's mounted to the knuckle itself, but where it's mounted on the top A-arm is about halfway in (a little more outboard, actually). So that spot on the upper arm moves at roughly a 1:2 ratio to the knuckle. Doesn't seem like an efficient place to put a shock, but what do I know. It's gotta be a pretty hefty rate to do much though.

Hm. The lower A-arm is 16" long, with the bumpstop 2.5" inboard. Sitting at rest, my bumpstop's got a 1.5" gap to the subframe...so the total travel is roughly 1.75"...plus a little squish factor in the bumpstop itself...call it 2" on the high side. Yikes.

Lessee, what else. Oh, the spring is 4.25" dia, 5/8" wire, and 7" long, so about 6.5 effective coils...giving a spring rate of approx 430 lb/in. It's mounted about 9.5" of the way in on a 16" arm, or about 60% of the way in, so its effective rate is 255 lb/in. Hm...that seems high.

I was trying to figure out if there was a way to get more suspension travel out of it, but the only thing I can think of (without going to something completely custom) is to put in a longer spring, which would raise the ride height and decamber the wheel. I guess one could get some of that back with camber bolts, but not much. Seems like about 3" of travel is the max.

Anyway, I'm just pondering. Here're pics of mine. They should make you feel better about the shape yours is in.





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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 09, 2006 10:01PM
Yeah I hear you on the weird front suspension.. Apparently front subframes, or whatever you want to call them, from 122s, 1800s, 140s are pretty easy to swap in. That'll give you a more normal setup, although still front steer. Not sure if that will help in the suspension travel department though. One plus is you don't have to move the shocks to run disc brakes.

I don't see how/where your car is in significantly worse condition. I'm going to have to cut out all the floors of this one too.



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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 10, 2006 06:24AM
Not significantly worse, no. I'm just sharing another potential rally PV that's gonna need a whole lotta lovin'.

Perhaps we can move this to the Construction forum. I'm pretty interested in following your teardown/buildup.




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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 10, 2006 02:31PM
Hey you lightweights!!!
Here's some fun stuff:










Read the text!



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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 10, 2006 07:11PM
grr...english, french, german, some kannada and some hindi, BUT I CAN'T READ BLURRY SVENSK!


them pitchers're pretty neat tho.





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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 10, 2006 10:21PM
I've seen that before.. and you know very well that I can't read the text.

At a quick glance I notice you can mount the b21-23 on an angle in a PV and he is not using stock suspension.



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Motor Out
May 10, 2006 10:24PM
I finally got the motor out.. it was a whore. But at least it's done now.. Noticed a fair bit more rust.. but still solid enough. I really don't like the PV subframe at the moment.. will probably put something else there.

I've got to slow down car work and gear up house work unfortunately.. Hopefully I'll get a lent welder in here sometime soon and start attacking some of the rot.



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Re: Motor Out
May 11, 2006 09:44AM
You weeenies!!!
You can't read the WORDS but you ought to be able to read 2590 kubik and "effekt....300hk" and "3000 till 8000"
Should I do better scans so the words are clearer?



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Re: 1959 Volvo PV 544
May 11, 2006 09:54PM
a great Finnish man told me once that all swedes were gay. then, as we were waiting for Gronholm's 307 some swedes were walking with flags and hats on the other side of the road. he pointed to them and said "look! they even look 'different'!" ever since that day i haven't trusted anything swedish. fuck ikea! LOL!

in case y'all dont know why a finn would say that about a swede, check the history books. (here's a tip, finns are swedes' canadians/ france's belgium)
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Nearing the end of stripping! and now with a MIG welder
May 16, 2006 12:30AM
So finally got my little migger that wasn't busted in shipping.. gas enabled.. just don't have a bottle and proper wire at the moment. Spent a couple hours with my bud fucking around with a mustang fender.. filling in cuts and welding washers to it.. good fun. Feeling quite good about the whole project at this point.. still need a few more tools and a whole lot of sheet metal!





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Re: Nearing the end of stripping! and now with a MIG welder
May 16, 2006 12:56AM
http://www.swedishtreasures.com/ has a bunch of panels for it already sized and dimpled. I don't know what they have in stock (most of the floor pan stuff seems to be "call to order"winking smiley, but they're pretty cheap and that might be a whole lot easier than fabbing up whole panels yourself.





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Repair Panels
May 16, 2006 06:45PM
hoche Wrote:
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> has a bunch of panels for it already sized and
> dimpled. I don't know what they have in stock
> (most of the floor pan stuff seems to be "call to
> order"winking smiley, but they're pretty cheap and that might
> be a whole lot easier than fabbing up whole panels
> yourself.

I usually get most of my parts from www.scandcar.com They have just about everything available for vintage Volvos. A lot of the companies in North America are simply resellers and have little to no stock.

That being said, http://www.vp-autoparts.com/ now has a warehouse in the States and I've been led to believe they stock most of the available parts for "commonly restored Volvos" ie Amazons, 544s, and 1800s.

I have to look into how much $$ I'll need to spend for sheet metal soon. Quick looks at the pricing is not good.

The thing that drives me nuts about buying sheetmetal for old Volvo's is none of the stores have proper pictures if any at all.. and the Volvo parts manuals, etc of which I have many usually don't have any information either, even when it's a Volvo part No.

Edit: I just noticed Swedish Treasures has a wack of pictures now for at least the 544 sheet... that's really nice to see.



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Sanding
May 23, 2006 10:07PM
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