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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 11, 2013 11:49PM
Yup, ya gottsta keep from grabbing the roll cage, even in a rally car.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 10:55AM
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This would save rally if the road fees and insurance were kept in line. Utes are made to abuse, affordable and if you watch the Oz stuff funner than hell. I'd get one.

So, sorta like this?







We're (obviously) working on this. smiling smiley

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 11:35AM
That looks kinda tame.
I want these.





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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 11:42AM
Wow, two rally groups in the USA are trying things outside the norm...but remember you can't get a waiver to run real studded tires at Ice*Slip.


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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 12:26PM
Yup, kinda like that. Can we do that at any NRS event (sans local restriction on road use) ? Be pretty easy to do on linked gravel stages and trailer on tarmac transits.


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This would save rally if the road fees and insurance were kept in line. Utes are made to abuse, affordable and if you watch the Oz stuff funner than hell. I'd get one.

So, sorta like this?







We're (obviously) working on this. smiling smiley

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 12:34PM
I like the utv idea. I dont think there cheaper then an average rallycar in any way.I do think they would be easier to start in. I can see the class building into a good thing. I also think the series better get a handle on the rules quick before guys get to out of hand. The video Grant posted would be the utv I would show up with if I were to build one just saying. 15k for a can am. another 5k on a turbo set up that makes 240 hp,10k on struts and 5k on brakes. It adds up just the same as a car.All the deveolpment cost on tires and wheels will be insane money the next few years.

If I were building a class around the utv. I would make them street legal with a windshield and doors,blinkers. I also would enforce some saftey rules so guys cant cut there fingers off. side window nets or something to slow tree branches from speering you when you go off the road. These are not bikes the rider cant bail.I would think you would need some sort of tire rule to keep it entry level.not really the amount of tires but more types of tires. throw in a resonable weight rule and go rally.


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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 12:59PM
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Yup, kinda like that. Can we do that at any NRS event (sans local restriction on road use) ? Be pretty easy to do on linked gravel stages and trailer on tarmac transits.

Yes, pretty much so.

You hit the nail on the head on how to accomplish it as UTV rules vary from state to state and even locality to locality.

West Virginia is especially good, as state law allows UTV/ATVs to use designated roads for a special event, even if open to other traffic, so they can run the full event including all transits. I'll look up Washington/Oregon if you are willing to do something with it.


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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 12, 2013 01:47PM
In New Hampshire, they're OHRVs in the woods, tractors on the street! There's a guy down the hill a couple miles who has both sets of tags on his. He likes to hunt, but had a stroke and can't walk as well as he used to, so his UTV is a huge help to keeping him active.


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March 12, 2013 02:49PM
There legal on dirt roads in our county. Theres 2 or 3 that are in town qiute a bit with MI plates. the 1 is a 4 seater with a monster turbo damn nice play toy. He sold his Harley and bought his utv for $26k to spend more time with the kids. He rolled it the first day he had it. $5k in damages insurance fixed it.


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March 12, 2013 06:50PM
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wuzzat shot doune on yer High Steet in toune?

Fortunately not. The 5 minute duration of that video was enough and has left me sore with laughing. I couldn't take any more pain.

Nice accent by the way! I thought you were a local yocal. winking smiley

And where is Brian Kirby these days? He arrived a while back, rekindled my interest in dirty bikes with all that chat and great pics, then he disappears.
Reason I ask is I had a few beers the other day then went out and bought a wee winter project, you know, just the 160bhp per litre engine, 5 speed sequential dog box, and 12inches of suspension travel as standard....

You bastid... I's too old for that now... Miss it bad tho..

And as for accent, many moons ago after years of living in Sweden then 2 season down in France where the only English speakers I interacted with were some Aussies and some Irish, all those influences resulted in sumpin closely resembling
the Ulster and Liverpool accent, specially when I'd get a few beers 9or a lotta hard cider) in me.. So I was working in a Fish and Chip shop in Notting Hill in London and all the locals would just presume I was from Ulster..
Good thing when the local plod would wander in for their grub..
Then there was these 2 fellow who were water meter readers, one London boy and the other a Scot with a prrrrrrretty thick accent. So I ask him where's he from and then "lemme guess, I'm good wif accents...Lessee. Colombian! Naw, Not Colombian, nope , I know! Venezuelan! yep has to be it, from Maracaibo! Right?'

So 'oafish-ally' he was my Venezuelan drinking buddy, 'cept the Chippies hours was the same as the pub hours back then..So him and his mate would bring me 'offerings' from the pub at the corner, and I'd give 'em fish-n-chips.

Worked good! then his brother from back home comes up to London to see the sights. Young and tough, big brow, a hard man and even worse (or better depending) accent. They come in and when he orders it was rough to follow--he was pissed already---and so I do the "lemme guess where ya from" and said the same routine--it was a running joke, right?
Well Lil bruver flips and he's climbing the counter and groowling "Fawkin Venezu-what-ian I'come over there and splian where I'z from mate" Took bother the other guys to haul him down and restrain him.. (of course we had a nice polished up oak baton somewhat heftier than police nightsticks right by the cash register and i had it in my hand already) so they're holding him and i say "OH! Sorry mate i was just guessin----I mean yer bruver is Venezuelan, I reckon you would be too (brother wuz nodding looking all reasonable---).. Kids going "Wha? Eh?

so I say, "din't mean any disrepsect, how wuz I 'spossed to know you was Argentinian, eh?"
The boy was upon the counter again!!!

he called me "fawkin Irish bastid!"

maybe its the rising inflection?

(Notice I'm ignoring your new bike? I's jealous...)
(Ok what'd you get?)

Ha ha, good story and about as on topic as the oversize quads that are now in the thread and apparently going to save rallying.
You and your mates trading beer and fish in chips is almost as good as it gets. But these days drunken sustenance has moved on with the cosmopolitan world we live in, and you would more than likely be after a kebab to absorb the copious amounts of alcohol consumed of an evening. Word of warning though, best not wind up the kebad selling Turks behind the counter as they have a large blade for slicing off all that meat from the rottiserie, and historically a bit of previous for not taking sheit from anyone.

Well bike wise I too may be a bit old for it but I gotta try. I suppose it could work two ways, I manage fine, or I get to meet some hot nurses! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Think I'll start another thread for the bikes when I get a moment as there will no doubt be muchos discussion on what spring rates and ARBs I need to use. smiling bouncing smiley
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March 12, 2013 07:42PM
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Ha ha, good story and about as on topic as the oversize quads that are now in the thread and apparently going to save rallying.
You and your mates trading beer and fish in chips is almost as good as it gets. But these days drunken sustenance has moved on with the cosmopolitan world we live in, and you would more than likely be after a kebab to absorb the copious amounts of alcohol consumed of an evening. Word of warning though, best not wind up the kebad selling Turks behind the counter as they have a large blade for slicing off all that meat from the rottiserie, and historically a bit of previous for not taking sheit from anyone.

Well bike wise I too may be a bit old for it but I gotta try. I suppose it could work two ways, I manage fine, or I get to meet some hot nurses! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Think I'll start another thread for the bikes when I get a moment as there will no doubt be muchos discussion on what spring rates and ARBs I need to use. smiling bouncing smiley
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Come on now livin in a chippie and as much as I loved me own cooking--and I made good chips--I'm half Flemish decent ya know and Gawd descended to earth and bestowed upon 'de vlaamse' to knowledge and duty of keeping good chips alive so the world could be happy----but trust me for quick grub there were plenty of good kebab places and for dinners so many good Indian and Chinese places..
Seriously, you know the guy "Dave Lister" from Red Dwarf?
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Let me tell you about this cutie pie Fillipina nurse that gave me a near embarrassing sponge bath while i was in recovery from some knee surgery...Ei ei ei madre dios!


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March 13, 2013 11:44AM
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Ha ha, good story and about as on topic as the oversize quads that are now in the thread and apparently going to save rallying.

After four years of ideas and rallying yet to be saved, it's time to get drastic! The big quads are actually not a bad idea but still pose the same road closure problems and getting them to pay rally sized entry fees...


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March 13, 2013 01:35PM
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That looks kinda tame.
I want these.


yes yes yes. would be fun for hill climbs too when you can't run it on the road. Wonder what shipping is like from spain http://www.speed-car.com/


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March 13, 2013 06:11PM
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After four years of ideas and rallying yet to be saved, it's time to get drastic! The big quads are actually not a bad idea but still pose the same road closure problems and getting them to pay rally sized entry fees...

So previous to this last four years of trying to save rallying in your continent had there been a boom time followed by a slow downturn that made people think they needed to save rallying? Or was there never really anything to save in the first place? More of a trying to kickstart a marginal activity if you will.

If people are trying to make a success of something then might it not be an idea to take a look and utlise the format from an existing, consistant and succesful platform?

In the UK we have many regional car clubs affiliated within the MotorSportsAssociation. These individual clubs tend to only run one or two rallying events each year due to the effort it takes to make them happen, and also because of permission to access suitable areas of land.
A championship with many rounds is formed by the amalgamation of the events run by these individual clubs.
Therefore the standardisation of rules and classes across the board is imperative to allow this to happen. For as long as I can remember in the UK the basic structure and classes have been in place, and only subject to minor tweaks which do not upset the apple cart and cause the loss competitors as a result of over zealous amendments. If you don't have a decent amount of competitors you don't really have a proper event.
I know this particular thread is a bit tongue in cheek but could there be the possibly that banding all these different off the wall ideas around of including bike-engined quads and the like might just be distracting folk from focusing on keeping a simple, consistant format that people can decide to be involved in.
If one creates all these different classes for all these different vehicles one just end up with loads of virtually empty classes with no real competition.


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March 13, 2013 08:36PM
Danny,

This thread was started with tongue firmly planted in cheek. So it's kind of a catchall of ideas, good, bad, sarcastic, etc.

John Vanlandingham has been screaming "Local clubs!!! Look at what's successful somewhere else and copy it!" for the 15 or so years I've known him. Canuckistan does have more local motorsports clubs than we do here in "'Merica! Fuck yeah!", land of super sized everything.


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