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speaking of cage padding.....

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speaking of cage padding.....

Yeah.... also anyone know why vehicles like that don't use winged seats, even dakar vehicles don't seem to use them.

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speaking of cage padding.....

Yeah.... also anyone know why vehicles like that don't use winged seats, even dakar vehicles don't seem to use them.

And this loon din't look like he hard a HANS...so he must be dead.

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Yeah.... also anyone know why vehicles like that don't use winged seats, even dakar vehicles don't seem to use them.

The wings would probably give you a concussion within a few hundred miles of Dakar. Rally is smooth enough to not notice it. The first friend that took a chopper ride was from head ping ponging between the head wings after an off road excursion. Car was beat up, driver was fine, codriver had no clue where she was.

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Yeah.... also anyone know why vehicles like that don't use winged seats, even dakar vehicles don't seem to use them.

The wings would probably give you a concussion within a few hundred miles of Dakar. Rally is smooth enough to not notice it. The first friend that took a chopper ride was from head ping ponging between the head wings after an off road excursion. Car was beat up, driver was fine, codriver had no clue where she was.

Ahh good point.


John he has one on.

The expression in his eyes is priceless..way beyond the aha moment and far into the "ohh
fuuuccckkk" moment. Something about hard packed snow that isn't appealing at that speed and distance.

im pretty sure legislation to bar committees from denying permits and charging fees would save rally

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This is not meant to be a negative post, what I am saying is if we (Participants and Fans) worked on these 10 things we could drop NEVER from the title..
My Top 10 Reasons Why Rally Will NEVER be Popular in the USA
10. No World class events held in the country
09. A lack of well-known American teams
08. Lack of cooperation between sanctioning bodies
07. Lack of success of an American International Team
06. Have to share spotlight with other American motor-sports
05. It can be audience “unfriendly” (slow) between stages/cars
04. General lack of Interest, too hard to go find a location..
03. Despite obvious parallels to “Old boot legging days”.. It’s new to most Americans
02. Lack of promotion
01. Lack of Exposure

I don't know if it's even possible to "work on" all the items on that list.

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Tag Rally Sport
7 hrs · Edited ·
This is not meant to be a negative post, what I am saying is if we (Participants and Fans) worked on these 10 things we could drop NEVER from the title..
My Top 10 Reasons Why Rally Will NEVER be Popular in the USA
10. No World class events held in the country
09. A lack of well-known American teams
08. Lack of cooperation between sanctioning bodies
07. Lack of success of an American International Team
06. Have to share spotlight with other American motor-sports
05. It can be audience “unfriendly” (slow) between stages/cars
04. General lack of Interest, too hard to go find a location..
03. Despite obvious parallels to “Old boot legging days”.. It’s new to most Americans
02. Lack of promotion
01. Lack of Exposure

10. We had FIA Olympus for 3 years? (JV, Dave??) and probably hurt more than helped.
09. Travis, Block, Higgins hardly strangers to the world.
08. BS...rally wasn't any more popular under SCCA sole ownership.
07. Non-issue in my mind. Buffum did ok, Millen did ok. Block did ok.
06. Other American motor-sports suffer from time to time. Put a hit on Bill France jr???
05. Run the cars together..wait ...GRC aka demo derby
04. Plant more trees in Brooklyn ?
03. Wrong, unkown to most Americans.
02. RA spent a fortune trying.
01. See 02.

Of the listed items there is very little we can work on or change.

Block tried the 'big times' and suffered a great deal of derision and negative posting on US forums. Jealousy maybe? I don't know. He tried..attaboy.

My shorter list:

01. Cost for beginners is quite high, you really can't get your feet wet, you jump off the bridge. No real progression for beginners.

02. Cars, thanks to the current consumer tastes there is a lack of what many of us consider ideal cars. Little manufacture support.

03. Dirty sport, little available viewing. We race in the woods, bears shit in the woods. Must be some correlation...

04. Too much internal negativity for various reasons. Lack of cohesion.

Soccer isn't exactly popular here either and it had mostly positives off that list. Such is life. Rally is somewhat of an outlaw rebellious sport and inhabited by many people of that nature. In reality many of us wouldn't do it if everyone did. I tried league bowling and square dancing many, many years ago...hated it.

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Tag Rally Sport
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This is not meant to be a negative post, what I am saying is if we (Participants and Fans) worked on these 10 things we could drop NEVER from the title..
My Top 10 Reasons Why Rally Will NEVER be Popular in the USA
10. No World class events held in the country
09. A lack of well-known American teams
08. Lack of cooperation between sanctioning bodies
07. Lack of success of an American International Team
06. Have to share spotlight with other American motor-sports
05. It can be audience “unfriendly” (slow) between stages/cars
04. General lack of Interest, too hard to go find a location..
03. Despite obvious parallels to “Old boot legging days”.. It’s new to most Americans
02. Lack of promotion
01. Lack of Exposure

This list is akin to a child's list wanting a unicorn for their birthday.

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My shorter list:

01. Cost for beginners is quite high, you really can't get your feet wet, you jump off the bridge. No real progression for beginners.

02. Cars, thanks to the current consumer tastes there is a lack of what many of us consider ideal cars. Little manufacture support.

03. Dirty sport, little available viewing. We race in the woods, bears shit in the woods. Must be some correlation...

04. Too much internal negativity for various reasons. Lack of cohesion.

Good list. I see #1 as the big issue. I would add that there is a high "perceived" cost to rally on top of that. So many people I talk to assume the need for fancy car, fancy rig, big crew, recce, etc. just to show up at their first club event. Its a double edged sword the teams that do the most self promotion (exposure) tend to be the ones with all the fancy toys. Those that show up and race and head back to work on Monday tend not to promote their activities as heavily.

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Tag Rally Sport
7 hrs · Edited ·
This is not meant to be a negative post, what I am saying is if we (Participants and Fans) worked on these 10 things we could drop NEVER from the title..
My Top 10 Reasons Why Rally Will NEVER be Popular in the USA
10. No World class events held in the country
09. A lack of well-known American teamsh
08. Lack of cooperation between sanctioning bodies
07. Lack of success of an American International Team
06. Have to share spotlight with other American motor-sports
05. It can be audience “unfriendly” (slow) between stages/cars
04. General lack of Interest, too hard to go find a location..
03. Despite obvious parallels to “Old boot legging days”.. It’s new to most Americans
02. Lack of promotion
01. Lack of Exposure

This list is akin to a child's list wanting a unicorn for their birthday.

ROTFL. Best laugh I've had this week, and so true.

Oh man,TAG is so close but so far.
"Charms" could save rally.
What motorsport didn't have to wait for 50 years to get noticed?
Drifting.
What did drifting have?
Girls.

If J.B. had taken my advice and hired 10 girls to wash every car when it came off the track, RA RallyX would have been huge.