McSlider Zack BalGreezy Ultra Moderator Location: Columbia S.C Join Date: 07/03/2014 Age: Party Animal Posts: 28 Rally Car: 98' Mitsubishi Eclipse |
Okay, first off I didnt race motocross, I race AMA National Enduro B-class 250cc and I still carry sponsors from my last season. So before you go saying "go and compete at the National level" learn what I've done and havent done first off because you make yourself sound stupid. I do race to win, because winners are the people who get remember. I dont want to prove to myself that I can do it, because I damn well can if I dedicate. I'm here to prove to others that I can, because who gives a shit if I think I'm a good driver? Nobody does, they all look at how many wins you have and your times. I dont say I'm here to win to be clique, I say it because I mean it. While I didnt win any National events, I was still one of the youngest in my class (16 in my first national season) keeping up mid pack or higher depending on how much pre-run time I got. Being there to win an event puts you in just as fast of a mindset as trying to improve your own time. Knowing that theres 40 or 50 people pushing just as hard if not harder then you makes you drive fast, because you want to win. So it's bullshit for me to say "I race to improve my time". I practice to improve my time, but I race to win or its all for nothing. Let there be people faster then me in 10 to 15 years. I mean fuck, I hope people aim to be faster then me. I hope some other kid who just got a bike wants to be faster then me. At least they remembered me and aimed to be better, rather then someone running themselves and gets forgotten when he leaves the sport. Let them shit on my scores and brag about how they where faster, because they where still talking about me and wanting to be better. |
RALLYRS Mike Ball Professional Moderator Location: Simi Valley,Ca. Join Date: 07/15/2011 Age: Ancient Posts: 466 Rally Car: Nope...I wish...RWD 2 Door Jeep XJ 4.0 5-spd Dirt-o-cross car(we have no grass!)2.3 ZX3 rallyx car(sold) |
Damn Morison ..did you just agree with JVL? ![]() ................................................. ..................... Support your Local North American Rally Forum!! While they are still around-and get the hell off Farsebook!! We still have Specialstage & RallyAnarchy. Post up Here: https://rallyanarchy.com/phorum/posting.php and here: https://www.specialstage.com/forums/forum.php |
Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Isn't the first time, won't be the last. John's agreed with me from time to time as well. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 ![]()
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Kid, you're a fucking kid. For fucks sake it doesn't matter if its B enduro. or B hare scambles or B motocross, or a total newb at rally or 40 years competing. You missed the point entirely. And if you weren't being a snot and put your name up like you're proud of who you are rather than hiding, we could just look at results...and say "Good job ___________ (your name), kewl".. I don't "look stupid" because I don't know what you've done; you're hiding who you are... You're not a person until you put a name up, you're just a made up "persona". I do know a little about enduros, just a tad...A class in a few Nationals and 2 Six Day qualifiers---didn't enter "Intent" class since I knew I wasn't going to go---or get picked since that happened behind closed doors---in fact my las ever bike race of any sort was Trask mountain 6 Days Qualifier...then I entered Vet A class cause I was ancient and in my 40s. And my favorite event of all the 20+ years on bikes was a 24 Hour International in Savigny-Beaune--Côte D'Or, south of Dijon, France.. we did 2nd in 125 (never raced a 125 before or after but hey when they're paying you and they give you a 125 and say you're the team captain, you say mais oui!, Right?) and I think it was 13th total out of 72 teams from all over Europe and 5 riders from USA. But that was really a big huge 24 hour full gas moto-cross really, and those Qualifiers were normal Euro format which is exactly like Special Stage Rally, with transits and ES or SS "special sections" where its full gas and to the second timing. it seems US Enduros have gone to something similar, but I saw a sample time card and it still showed at the top "24 mph Average" Are these Enduros you've been doing Qualifier or timing keep or 'restart" events.? All this aside hate to waste time trying to teach you but you know what? That other guy on you're minute, and those guys a minute ahead and a minute or 10 behind---they're not next to you, how do you know you're beating them....and faster? If its a time keeper enduro how do you be faster? More on time, in the middle of your minute but faster? he has the same problem you do: the ground he's on.. You do what you can, he does what he can, whoever does it BETTER---and has more grit--will do better.. Hey as a B rider, do you feel short changed not doing the same distance as A guys? Some rallys have traditionally fucked the "Regional" guys and claim "they don't want more miles" and run them 2-3 SS less than the BIG NATIONAL Champ-peen. Which is rediculous... What sort of miles you do? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2014 01:28AM by john vanlandingham. |
MConte05 Matthew Conte Infallible Moderator Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: 06/27/2011 Age: Settling Down Posts: 257 Rally Car: 1991 Subaru Legacy Turbozzzzzz |
Curious what rallies have actually done that? |
Anders Green Anders Green Elite Moderator Location: Raleigh, NC Join Date: 03/30/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,478 Rally Car: Parked |
When scca national events started allowing regional competitors to also compete, this was common practice. So, pick a ra national, it probably did that in the 90s. In other news, I thought crowdfunding had already saved, rally, but, in new news, crowdfunding will save rally! http://www.gofundme.com/supportfetelateam Anders Grassroots rally. It's what I think about. |
czwalga steve czwalga Junior Moderator Location: Pittsburgh, PA Join Date: 09/16/2011 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 376 Rally Car: 95 awd celica |
One of the best rally drivers!!! The self promotion is probably the only thing that turns me off to rally. Well maybe recce too... i despise recce; even though i do it for some reason... spending 10 hours putting along is sometimes worth it for those 2-3 corners in the entire routebook that have shitty notes and could send you off the road. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2014 08:33AM by czwalga. |
imnotcrazy Don Kennedy Professional Moderator Location: Reading, PA Join Date: 10/05/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 227 Rally Car: Impreza |
If I'm correct CARS has done that for quite a while. Don Kennedy |
imnotcrazy Don Kennedy Professional Moderator Location: Reading, PA Join Date: 10/05/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 227 Rally Car: Impreza |
Interesting that the title on that page is "Live your dream". I think it's more like "Help them to live their dream". Whatever. Don Kennedy |
EricW Eric Wages Ultra Moderator Location: Goose Creek, SC Join Date: 12/09/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 280 Rally Car: 2002 WRX |
My dream is to get paid to rally. And to have unicorns. |
EricW Eric Wages Ultra Moderator Location: Goose Creek, SC Join Date: 12/09/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 280 Rally Car: 2002 WRX |
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zeeto Chris Rosato Godlike Moderator Location: Johnson City, NY Join Date: 02/03/2012 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 10 |
It's just a single stage, and the super special at that, but since we weren't signed up as a National entry at Perce Neige our rally ended after SS16, while the national entries ended after SS17. |
randyzimmer randy zimmer Professional Moderator Location: Buffalo, NY Join Date: 03/12/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 196 Rally Car: rallycross 13B Miata |
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Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Yes, every Canadian Rally Championship event has a regional event that runs fewer stages. Sometimes it might be a single stage, most time it is a few stages an possibly a significant difference in distance.
No, nobody's getting fucked. - The regional entry fee is lower - The driving force is making the regional championship more affordable and easier to compete in. Often, teams running regional only can take one less day off, will spend less on fuel/tires etc. - Entering the national event still lets you score points in the regional AND get all the mileage. - Some, but not all, events have an option to enter an additional 'non-points' regional to get the full distance of the event. - As an organiser who ran a regional event with 151km of stage, including two 34 km stages (turnaround) that were each run twice I can assure you there was a strong push from most of the competitors to REDUCE the stage mileage. - That's not stopping me from planning ~136km of stage for Big White this year, with two passes of a 28km stage. Hopefully we'll get the roads we're looking at! Randy, I'd probably count that as AMONG the reasons at one point, but far from the only reason and not really a reality today. I think any regional team would be hard pressed to run any of the national events today without lights. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 ![]()
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
As far as I can tell it was only the WA and OR events that didn't as a routine thing.. The whole thing was stupid and essentially dishonest.. We maybe had the drive to recruit more people possibly because the mono-mania of John Nagel to have Dubya Arsey happen in WA Nagel was fixated on that and that enthusiasm rubbed off. But every so called "National" so called "Pro" out here as far back as at least '83 and doubtless earlier had 2 separate concurrent "Divisional" events which ran same roads same everything.. Naturally there was among the so called "Pro" entries a ton of dual-entries so some could cherry-pick a plaque, and that kinda sucked....but the "Divisional" guys not doing say the last 3 stages or 30 miles less was in some cases clearly a way to drive in more so called "National" entries...(to get a so called "National Pro" licence you had to finish 2 Divisionals and we'd see STPR organisers have their "Ski Saw Mill Licence school deal which had class-room---which somehow counted as a full Divisional---then guys driving around in a parking lot and an access road counting as a full Divisional and hey! Presto! National licence! And those guys would all eneter the "National" (and pay the National entry and do nothing resultswise)... There was no rule saying the concurrent events must be shorter but the way each of the organisers used the same phrasing, same exact words "Well, you see, most divisional cars aren't prepared as well as the PRO cars so they don't want to go the full distance as the National blah blah blah" indicated that those saying word-for-word same thing had discussed and worked out a "Party Line"...which was flat bullshit and shameless that otherwise good people would look you in the eye and repeat this shit when I never encounted 1 Divisional guy who didn't want MORE miles, MORE SS because they were a) new and enthusiastic and full of passion and b) they instinctively knew what they needed was more practice. But on the other hand it would be had to pretend the Champignonskit held any "prestige" if it was entered by 6 people total. (That where I got the idea of all events count--all award "National Champ Peen Points" with 100 SS miles being the standard... so if it was a Rally sprint with 18 miles, you win you get points x 0.18 and if it was a small event with 37 miles, points time 0.37 and if it was 100 miles, points times 1 and say somebody wanted to make an event like some even into the 90s did with MORE SS miles, say 180 SS miles, kinda in an effort to lure people with the chance to make more points, that would be points x 1.8...If its really a joke and it always has been, then make EVERYTHING a "National" kinda like here we're all not just moderators but variations on SUPER-moderators and "Mega-Moderators" etc.. Since its all a joke.) John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |