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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 11, 2014 02:01PM
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I can see why people would have an issue. Getting 150kms into a single day event is tough. Especially if you plan on having driver's meeting in the morning, results/end party at night. Doubly so racing in a small-ish middle of nowhere town that closes everything down at 9pm or 10pm.

Point is, I personally would rather do 125km of stage in a day, not wake up at 5am, and be able to relax with my rally buddies and shoot the shit about how badass I was throughout the day ( winking smiley ) having beers at 10 or 11pm. Not 2 in the morning.

Of course, don't get me wrong. I love long, difficult rallies. But as the guy paying for everything now as a driver without any service crew, 120 stage kms is plenty of time for me to battle it out with my competitors to get to a point where the gaps just become bigger.

Well, Minnesota roads lend themselves to long stages and very short transits. There are some times where you run a 10 or 12 mile stage, transit 2 miles, then run another long stage. They have some of the best compact stages (although the initial transit out to the forest is long).

Their schedule was actually fairly relaxed. Going from memory we started around noon with Parc Expose', rallied at 1:00pm, done by 9:00pm right at dark. Great little party afterwards.

But I do agree with you. I wouldn't want to start at 5:00am and get done after midnight just to get in a few more miles.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 11, 2014 09:42PM
What's old is new again! Since Super-Slo-Mo is so played out on rally videos…Undercranked film/video will Save Rally!!!!!



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 12, 2014 12:16AM
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What's old is new again! Since Super-Slo-Mo is so played out on rally videos…Undercranked film/video will Save Rally!!!!!

like in the old days...cartoonish speeds, dust billowing frantically..dirt and gravel defying gravity and falling instantly..toute ca change



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 13, 2014 12:07PM
NBC paid NASCAR 4.4 billion dollars for the 2nd half season rights for the next 9 years. That is for the rights, doesn't include production costs.

Nothing will save rally ..it'll go along as is until everyone loses interest or the fees become too high for the folks involved.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 13, 2014 10:55PM
Yup and I think its a total of 8.2 billion in advertising budget.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 13, 2014 11:17PM
nascar will save rally?



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 14, 2014 11:03AM
I watched part of STPR, plenty of critiques but all in all what I watched wasn't too bad. But I have a pretty good idea how hard it is to cover rallying. It might help.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 14, 2014 04:16PM

Organizers HP Rally Group, LLC
Dba: Southwest Rally Group
http://www.southwestrallyseries.com AKA: Denise McMahon

848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #4762
Las Vegas, NV 89107-1103
http://www.maillinkplus.com/

299 South Main St.
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
http://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/utah/salt-lake-city-virtual-offices/facility-1326

An organizer living / operating in California, registers a business in Nevada which is just a mail drop, and then starts an LLC in Utah using a Virtual Office and that Mail Drop address to order insurance for rally events. = Legitimate Business! thumbs up
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 14, 2014 05:16PM
Yeppers , that seems to be what's going on. Guess which tin cup the little ball is under.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 14, 2014 06:49PM
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Organizers HP Rally Group, LLC
Dba: Southwest Rally Group
http://www.southwestrallyseries.com AKA: Denise McMahon

848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #4762
Las Vegas, NV 89107-1103
http://www.maillinkplus.com/

299 South Main St.
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
http://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/utah/salt-lake-city-virtual-offices/facility-1326

An organizer living / operating in California, registers a business in Nevada which is just a mail drop, and then starts an LLC in Utah using a Virtual Office and that Mail Drop address to order insurance for rally events. = Legitimate Business! thumbs up

This sounds about as sketchy as some years of Rally New York.

On the flip-side, that sounds about the same as what you'd have to do to register most any rally car that may ever see use in Cauliflaurnia. Probably waaaaay easier to make the business based out of Nevada and/or Utah than to jump through the hoops of creating a business that Governor Moonbeam would probably see as drunk street racing in a school zone. smoking smiley

Most corporate persons are residents of low-tax, low-liability states like Nevada and Deleware. Utah's never been afraid of capitalists, but they sure didn't like George Washington Hayduke (wait, wut?).

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 14, 2014 09:35PM
I have considered forming a second LLC based out of Montana for the race team (seperate from the race shop.) RV's regularly register in Montana to avoid taxes and such. Though I suppose I could just use a friend's shop address in mountains or family addresses in Wyo to avoid emissions. Of course, that ALSO requires a driveable rally car...



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 15, 2014 09:03AM
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Organizers HP Rally Group, LLC
Dba: Southwest Rally Group
http://www.southwestrallyseries.com AKA: Denise McMahon

848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #4762
Las Vegas, NV 89107-1103
http://www.maillinkplus.com/

299 South Main St.
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
http://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/utah/salt-lake-city-virtual-offices/facility-1326

An organizer living / operating in California, registers a business in Nevada which is just a mail drop, and then starts an LLC in Utah using a Virtual Office and that Mail Drop address to order insurance for rally events. = Legitimate Business! thumbs up

Just playing devil's advocate here - no defense of Denise intended - but I was under the impression it's pretty standard practice to use a service company (like "UNITED STATES CORPORATION AGENTS, INC." listed at that address) to act as the registered agent for a LLC.

And the mail drop? perhaps someone doesn't want their home address attached to a public record business filing? I know I wasn't thrilled about putting my home address, or myself as registered agent, on my LLC, but was too cheap to do otherwise.

Why the hell she registered the LLC in Utah I have no idea.

(My LLC had a way cooler name too...)



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 15, 2014 09:26AM
at least in DE: "Delaware law requires that every business entity have and maintain a Registered Agent in the State of Delaware who may be either an individual resident or business entity that is authorized to do business in the State of Delaware. The registered agent must have a physical street address in Delaware. If the business is physically located in Delaware, then the business may act as its own registered agent. If the registered agent is other than the entity itself, please contact the selected Registered Agent used in your entity formation and inform them of your intentions."



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
July 15, 2014 11:36AM
I wish I could get a handle on why certain events decide to go 'independent.'
Maybe its because I understand the 'independent oversight' that comes with being sanctioned (at least in Canada, and I'd assume in both RA and NASA) but other than wanting to get 'cheaper' insurance I can only imagine the motivation is to be 'doing things our way.'
I also strongly believe that 'self sanctioning' isn't possible.

Most people don't think about these things, but it's something that would make me reconsider entering an event.

But who knows, maybe:

Unsanctioned Events will save rally.



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