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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 03, 2014 10:24PM
TV will save rally.

Subaru will save rally.

Kurt Spitzner will save rally.

Bringing in drivers from Europe will save rally.

Doug Havir will save rally.

More stupid rules will save rally.

Higher entry fees will save rally.

Oh... wait! All that shit has been tried. Better to repeat the past 17 year cluster fuck and expect a better result.

Bah humbug.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 03, 2014 11:02PM
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TV will save rally.

An American WRC round with real heroes will save rally by bring TV

An American WRC round with a couple of TV starts driving Course Opening Cars OO and 0 will save rally---even if they both crash on the first gravel stage within 50m of each other.
Because it 'll bring TV.



Subaru will save rally.

Kurt Spitzner will save rally.

Kurt Spitzner giving Carte Blanche to SRTUSA to do anything and cooking every protest to their favor--will save rally "It's natural that if they pay for all the TV coverage that they should get the coverage....so

No Press Releases if an EVO wins from Mr Spitzner, or if a privateer beats SRTUSA will save rally


Bringing in 2nd or 3rd tier drivers from Europe will save rally.

Doug Havir will save rally.

More stupid rules will save rally.

Higher entry fees will save rally.

A Patent troll buying Rally America as a plaything for his little boy with an un-marketable degree will save rally

Oh... wait! All that shit has been tried. Better to repeat the past 30 year cluster fuck and expect a better result.

Bah humbug.


Fleshed it out for you there Jens, you weren't really in the scene that much, its been the same since the 70s. Or maybe its that Ahlzheimers flaring up again.. poor thing.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 03, 2014 11:21PM
That sums it up pretty well, John.

If it wasn't so sad it could be funny.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 12:25AM
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That sums it up pretty well, John.

If it wasn't so sad it could be funny.

Yeah if it wasn't...

Oh we both forgot
Short sprint events with massive amounts of service is goona save rally...ignore the entries numbers going down steadily as the endurance aspect has declined.

And 2 pass recce and detailed notes so the field can average 50mph---virtually the same average speed as we did in first couple of events 30 years ago---is going to save rally.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 08:24AM
John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this. What are you exactly wanting to see. To me rally for the US doesn't look to be in a bad situation. Like it has been stated before the distance between each rally is ridiculous as compared to europe. But I doubt we can go around shrinking the US. There are 720 million people in europe and 320 million in the US.
3.931 million sq miles Europe

3.794 million sq miles USA

So when you have twice the people in about the same amount of space you can't really expect the same results.

I will agree with one thing, the time I have seen non rally people get interested in rally is when Hero stories are told. That is the thing that connects non rally people into rally. Stories of battles, stories of winning as under dog.

I am still confused as to what the goal is. To save rally? Are there rallies to go to, yes. Can you get your car to dorifto on the dirt, yes. Is someone paying you to do it, no. Do most rally drivers have to pay there way, yes.

Bringing european guys over here to kick our asses won't help any. Taking our american butts and kicking some european tail will help.

Bringing WRC will help, but only one part of the country that will be able to attend.

Also I don't see why more ruling's wouldn't help. Slow the top guys down so they don't wreck as much (2.0 Liter motors) and bring the field closer together. It is kind of annoying to see 2 min gaps in the standings as opposed to a battle of swapping out for the lead. It's not about penalizing anyone, its about bringing the field closer together.





also who wants to go drive 4 hours and go sit at this corner and watch several people screw up a hairpin. I sure don't. Please go practice your hairpins, its called ralycross and it will save rally smiling smiley


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TV will save rally.

An American WRC round with real heroes will save rally by bring TV

An American WRC round with a couple of TV starts driving Course Opening Cars OO and 0 will save rally---even if they both crash on the first gravel stage within 50m of each other.
Because it 'll bring TV.



Subaru will save rally.

Kurt Spitzner will save rally.

Kurt Spitzner giving Carte Blanche to SRTUSA to do anything and cooking every protest to their favor--will save rally "It's natural that if they pay for all the TV coverage that they should get the coverage....so

No Press Releases if an EVO wins from Mr Spitzner, or if a privateer beats SRTUSA will save rally


Bringing in 2nd or 3rd tier drivers from Europe will save rally.

Doug Havir will save rally.

More stupid rules will save rally.

Higher entry fees will save rally.

A Patent troll buying Rally America as a plaything for his little boy with an un-marketable degree will save rally

Oh... wait! All that shit has been tried. Better to repeat the past 30 year cluster fuck and expect a better result.

Bah humbug.


Fleshed it out for you there Jens, you weren't really in the scene that much, its been the same since the 70s. Or maybe its that Ahlzheimers flaring up again.. poor thing.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 08:48AM
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.....also who wants to go drive 4 hours and go sit at this corner and watch several people screw up a hairpin. I sure don't.



Rally is not a spectator sport. The past few decades of sucking up to spectators is the root of the problem.

If people want to spectate they should go to a road race or better yet NASCAR roundy/round where they can see all the cars all the time.
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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 08:59AM
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.....also who wants to go drive 4 hours and go sit at this corner and watch several people screw up a hairpin. I sure don't.



Rally is not a spectator sport. The past few decades of sucking up to spectators is the root of the problem.

If people want to spectate they should go to a road race or better yet NASCAR roundy/round where they can see all the cars all the time.

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 09:01AM
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John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this.
Cereal - Pertaining to grain or the grasses which produce it.

Try to spend a little bit of time and find and spell the correct word for a change, I don't think you're referencing Johns Frosted Flakes (although John does some times get frosted!).



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 09:36AM
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John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this.
Cereal - Pertaining to grain or the grasses which produce it.

Try to spend a little bit of time and find and spell the correct word for a change, I don't think you're referencing Johns Frosted Flakes (although John does some times get frosted!).


welcome to the internet grammar nazi? cereal = serious. Have a nice day!



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 09:38AM
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John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 09:46AM
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John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this.
Cereal - Pertaining to grain or the grasses which produce it.

Try to spend a little bit of time and find and spell the correct word for a change, I don't think you're referencing Johns Frosted Flakes (although John does some times get frosted!).


welcome to the internet grammar nazi? cereal = serious. Have a nice day!
How? Why?
I dare you to go for your next real job interview (anywhere other than a fast food joint) and have that word used, as you use it, in your resume.

Call me a grammar Nazi all you want.
Oh, and also try using all lower case, no upper case and no punctuation in your resume. And don't give me any crap about "it's just the internet". Practice good habits here and they'll follow you everywhere. Practice bad habits here and they'll follow you everywhere.

Guess what. I just used a dictionary to verify a word I used above because I wanted to spell it correctly. Know what a dictionary is?



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 09:58AM
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John, lets get one thing straight, you seem cereal about this.
Cereal - Pertaining to grain or the grasses which produce it.

Try to spend a little bit of time and find and spell the correct word for a change, I don't think you're referencing Johns Frosted Flakes (although John does some times get frosted!).

The choice for the girlies is Crice Rispies, Flakie-wakes, Toasty-o or Quaker-Oafs.

But me, nothing--tea. Gotta lose 30-35lbs. 15 off so far.

Bread only stoneground whole wheat or Knäcke---100% rye hardbread



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 10:00AM
How? Why?
I dare you to go for your next real job interview (anywhere other than a fast food joint) and have that word used, as you use it, in your resume.

Call me a grammar Nazi all you want.
Oh, and also try using all lower case, no upper case and no punctuation in your resume. And don't give me any crap about "it's just the internet". Practice good habits here and they'll follow you everywhere. Practice bad habits here and they'll follow you everywhere.

Guess what. I just used a dictionary to verify a word I used above because I wanted to spell it correctly. Know what a dictionary is?[/quote]

uhm yea, i work at a engineering firm where if you mispell a single word ODOT will kick back your plans. So I know what your saying, but this is not the place for that kind of thing. This is the place to hash out new ideas, not get butt hurt over rules of the English language. So we can have this argument all day long if you want, but its not going to get anywhere.

By the way comparing forum posting to your resume is like wearing a suit and tie to the go kart track. There is a time and a place for everything.



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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 10:16AM
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is like wearing a suit and tie to the go kart track.

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Re: Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
March 04, 2014 10:43AM
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How? Why?
I dare you to go for your next real job interview (anywhere other than a fast food joint) and have that word used, as you use it, in your resume.

Call me a grammar Nazi all you want.
Oh, and also try using all lower case, no upper case and no punctuation in your resume. And don't give me any crap about "it's just the internet". Practice good habits here and they'll follow you everywhere. Practice bad habits here and they'll follow you everywhere.

Guess what. I just used a dictionary to verify a word I used above because I wanted to spell it correctly. Know what a dictionary is?

uhm yea, i work at a engineering firm where if you mispell a single word ODOT will kick back your plans. So I know what your saying, but this is not the place for that kind of thing. This is the place to hash out new ideas, not get butt hurt over rules of the English language. So we can have this argument all day long if you want, but its not going to get anywhere.

By the way comparing forum posting to your resume is like wearing a suit and tie to the go kart track. There is a time and a place for everything.[/quote]

+ Juan. One word clearly wrong is nothing. even a missing word is still seldom a big deal IN THIS CONTEXT... There's something called logic and often logically there can be only one word that makes sense... Since dialog is actually a highly cooperative process---ie we all grant certain basic assumptions to others (until like some we understand clearly that they don't do the same and are writing just to be pricks) so we kinda go along...
And fill in the blanks--or self correct...and at most play around with the mstake and have a laugh TOGETHER.
No biggie.





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