Oooo! The next "this will save rally" is almost here!
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Well, I do sometimes finish, rarely without issues, most outside my control it seems.  But when were on the road and the car hasn't randomly broken, we're setting decent times.
We did, never said we didn't, enjoyed the event, enjoyed rallying with you. But to give someone shit for being slow, when objectively they are faster than you is kind of shitty. That's what you did to Matt B. I get that it's hard for you old guys to apologize when your wrong, but whatever.
Wut? I most certainly did know (was one of the few) and directly made that argument to CARS at the time when they tried to bring in spec race fuel for $900/barrel. But as usual, you'll make nonsense up to justify your odd world view.
Says the guy who thinks his experience racing back in the 80's slowly remotely applies to nowadays (or ever really did apply)?
Sure he can. But you are comparing someone who is LITERALLY at the top of the sport in the world to Block. Block is ok and has unlimited funding, combined with how many events of experience under his belt??
That car Haydon runs was probably worth $100k plus. Remember that time in the WRC F2 cars were beating up on the group A cars, or does that slip your brain John? Jesus. So you take a better driver, put him in an excellent car, and let him rip, yea, I expect he probably does pretty well. Block also has this thing with choking under pressure, he never seems to perform when the heat is really on.
While I agree with your sentiment, you are making an argument I never made and then arguing against... yourself? About it. But alas, that is lost on you, thinking the voices in your head are real.
That's the goal, and that is what I intend to do. But there are definitely certain experiences that are better than others, and as a poor schmuck like myself, I need to make the events I attend count. There are also certain things that make not much difference to the goal at hand, and a well sorted car certainly allows you to focus on "improving yourself". My car is always brilliant to drive, I've just had some shit luck with mechanical failure. This season.
Yea, it was awesome, but he (again), took a $100k car, and beat on a field of group N cars or their approximate equivalents. Its not as incredible as you make it out to be, considering: 1) He is literally world champion material 2) A well sorted, lightweight 2wd car can compete with heavily restricted 4wd cars 3) Block isn't that incredible of a driver, as already highlighted previously And you have zero real comparison to Block's current talent to the rest of the field, as he has competed in a $400k car vs the rest of us running around in $20k or $30k cars. So yes, quite clearly I have a better grasp of the fields speed then you do because your comparisons are like apples to the friggin sky. |
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Must have made a poor case since Keith "Finger-on-the-pulse-of-everything" kept asking for links and proof
Well I don't know anything, but I do know that that car is $100,000 because it is a Appendix K Historic class car... But it is still a 1600cc 16v engine---plenty of 1600 or 2000cc 16v engines around---on carbs...not problem there---and simple 3 box RWD platform...Plenty of cars like that or slightly longer. The main point being that a good driver in a good simple car with only one diff and inverted 40mm, limited travel Bilsteins, beat a whole lot of guys all quicker than the top 10 in Canada and all but maybe Higgins in USA.. Proof that a simple--but well done ---car is not an impediment to overall wins...and also proof that the sharp end of the stick is not very sharp.
No, numbnuts it doesn't slip my brain. Unlike you I was around --and talking to engine builders THERE at the time ..They beat up on World Rally Car A8 (those F2 were a sub-set of Group A6---remember that? Oh you were 8 years old then you don't remember shit) on just 2 or at most 3 events... DRY wide FAST asphalt events. And nowhere else. The question is do you know how, even for a couple or 3 WRC those F2 cars were built? You allude that you know things that I don't, so tell us oh magnificent one how and why the managed to go that fast.
Point is that a young and rather inexperienced guy could take a limited spec--good spec but locked into old parts---and beat a car with twice the HP, and maybe three times the torque, only 1/4 more weight. People can and do build cars faster and quicker than Paddon's Appendix K car, costing 1/4 what that cost... If a driver cannot drive a car, well built and reasonably quick quick enough to beat Block Stage Times, then it is THEIR skills which are lacking, and buying a bunch of fancy parts will wasted money and effort.
Didn't we already explain this to you? I'm sure we did...
*** Sorry Adam "knows-everything-but-is-actually-a-total-dork-who-knows-shit" Vokes, once again despite you feeble efforts, you are once again ignorant--and lazy. http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/technical-regulations/2016%20NZRC%20Portfolio.pdf
Took 1.6 minutes to find and copy-and-paste that...shorter time than you typing your lousy opinions. Not Group N. And maybe Block isn't much of a driver, but he is quicker than the "top" of the Canajian field--except maybe Lestage sometimes.. .And the point was he was beaten by a good driver in OLD machinery.. Meaning all one needs is good well done 2wd car and all the fixation and addiction to turbo 4wd is misplaced and corrosive. Which really is ironic since you try and scream and cry that whatever I know is outdated.. Well, numb-nuts, that outdated shit beat all those other good NZRC drivers in addition to Block... And I know old stuff---and anybody with eyes and ears can hear and see top in both USA and Canada is thin, weak, and over reliant of buying "the latest".. When they would do better in the long run to build and rally, simpler but correct 2wd cars. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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