HiTempguy Banned Ultra Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
I randomly came across a world rally blue WRX for sale on the local racers facecrack page with the following description:
![]() ![]() Appeared relatively rust free. I was in quite a big rush to get it, as the chassis alone is worth about $3k around here. So I did last night at 730pm as the first snow of the season rolled in! ![]() Currently need to decide whether I want to fix and sell it, or build it into a rallycar and sell my current open class car. I think I could build a car that suited my needs for cheaper than the current rallycar, have it built the way I want, and be about as fast. Current ideas involve either a junkyard ej205 with a vf34/vf48 and a 5 speed close ratio dccd, or a full version 8 sti ej207 with twin scroll vf36 and accompanying 6 speed dccd swap just like the current car. Or I could just run a completely stock wrx drivetrain with a 20kg centre viscous diff. If nothing else, TD04's are cheap and they sure make boost quicker than the larger turbos. The version 8 swap is about $6.5k with everything. The junkyard swapping is about $3k. The bone stock wrx drivetrain is $1400 with extra parts I could sell off. All of them I'd probably run race fuel on for shits and giggles. ![]() |
A1337STI Alex Rademacher Infallible Moderator Location: Reno,nv Join Date: 09/10/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 686 Rally Car: 93 GC with an 01 RS swap! |
i'm guessing money isn't a big object holding back your build (color me jealous)
What's the gearing / Final drive going to be like on the 6-speed ? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1689781 http://www.car-videos.net/tools/speedrpm.asp and what are your Plans for a DCCD Controller? ... I'd be leaning towards going with the 5 speed by a lot. the 6 speed is heavier and has more rotating mass. Its going to zap more hp / tq from the motor before it makes it to the wheels. I'd really avoid a 6 speed unless you are finding one with a big final drive and close ratio all the way up to 6th .. if its geared and final drive(ed?) correctly you will be using 5th and 6th a fair amount |
Towona Tony P Senior Moderator Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: 08/21/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 149 Rally Car: MK2 Golf |
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Morison Banned Senior Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
How much for the black car... (full circle :-) )
First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 ![]()
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HiTempguy Banned Ultra Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
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HiTempguy Banned Ultra Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
Yes, you have enough non-running rally cars as it is ![]() The thought has crossed my mind of keeping it for a spare shell, but realistically, if I wrote off the black one completely, I'd be out for at least a year (not that my record is currently much better haha). I figure I can get this one built into a decent car for $15k, so we shall see! |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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MattWatson Matt Watson Elite Moderator Location: Calgary Join Date: 04/17/2013 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 151 Rally Car: Merkur |
Lies and Slander! I am only 2k (projected) over budget. Although I guess the ratio is still true... Let everyone see the amazingness of building, well if you like building things. |
A1337STI Alex Rademacher Infallible Moderator Location: Reno,nv Join Date: 09/10/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 686 Rally Car: 93 GC with an 01 RS swap! |
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
You are probably unaware that that cliche phrase--repeated endlessly---is a good deal of why there's only 310-320 maybe kinda "active' participants nation wide. All the countries with fractions of our populations that have multiple more participants, and leaps and bounds BETTER driving--most of then build their own cars MOST..probably more than 85%-88%. Keep on with the Party Line, you're batting 1000 lately. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
HiTempguy Banned Ultra Moderator Location: Red Deer, Alberta Join Date: 09/13/2011 Posts: 717 Rally Car: 2002 Subaru WRX STi |
Neetronics. My little brain understands it and I find it works well! The 6 speed is also bulletproof. The 5 speeds not so much. One broken dccd 5 speed tranny puts me at the same cost as a single 6 speed dccd if I have to buy a 2nd dccd 5 speed. The gearing of either is acceptable in a turbocharged application... really, its a cost thing moreso than anything else. The 5 speed would possibly have less shifting, I find a lot of useless shifting in the STi with the 6 speed happens.
I'm a realist proponent. I have a girlfriend and lead a relatively unencumbered life with a 38 hour work week. Most people don't have that. If I can barely rally a couple times a year due to time/money, I find it hard to believe a father can get time to build a rallycar (properly, its easy enough to slap a cage, suspension, and skid plates on a car). I'd like to try my hand at building a car the way I want, no corners cut. Strip it down completely and build it back up. I've taken apart every subsystem on a Subaru now, so I am farily confident in taking the whole thing apart. I have time (working way less overtime nowadays) and money is finally going fairly well. The current car is great, I do love it... but I think it may be too expensive for my blood. The current car (if I build it) is free in my mind after selling some parts. $3500 for cage/seats mounts/door sill jacking points. $700 for an ej205. Already have seats. Suspension? $2500 maybe? I have tires and rims. Skid plates another $500? Intercom/rally odo $500? I guess what I am saying is I can easily get it on stage, properly built for under $10k. Thats no ej207 6 speed dccd car, but do I really need that? Who answers that question? I want to rally, and currently can't (much). I don't think I'll lose much speed stepping down spec-wise, maybe even run 91 octane. On top of all of this, we can't import rallycars into Alberta anymore, so there is a SERIOUS lack of rallycars available here, and if they are for sale, they are very high priced. If we could still import from the US, I'd import a car in a second and say screw building! |
Snidewhips Jeremy Livingston Professional Moderator Location: Edmonton Alberta Canuckistan Join Date: 05/23/2013 Posts: 277 Rally Car: 1990 acura integra, 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe |
adam theres some one flogging their hotbits on ss right now. building really helps with the whole fixing and unfixing aspect. now if i could find someone to build me a cage in a reasonable timeframe. fword! am cliffhanging on bending it myself, for 3500 i could probably f up a few cages and get it right *disclaimer* i will not do the welding . push come to shove i push and shove then nothing happens, i'm goin ghandi this go round. fuckin fuckers, lastly your lucky i got no space to park mo junk at my crib or that would be my bitch. my one project at a time moto is gettin stuck to. thanks for the photos....
All bridges burnt, island life is beauty |
Eric Ewert Eric Ewert Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, Ab Join Date: 05/13/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 366 Rally Car: volvo 240 |
If you're going to go through the effort to practically build the same/ similar car why not give something else a go. As in a different class.
hehehehe...http://www.ppgearbox.com.au/page.asp?productid=72 I do believe that they make them for 6 speeds as well! |
Do It Sidewayz Chris Martin Professional Moderator Location: Toronto, Ontario Join Date: 01/15/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 567 Rally Car: E-85 powered Impreza |
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