john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> pikespeakgtx Wrote:
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> > PROFLIGATE - Adj- def : Recklessly wasteful;
> > wildly extravagant.
>
> Was it not perfectly clear?
>
>
> >
> > Michael LeCompte
>
> Clear, just redundant. Department of Redundancy Department.
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count

Do It Sidewayz Wrote:
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> the mfactory is decent. however, still doesn't
> include a thermostat.
>
> Most clever people are alot better to just go buy
> the Mocal Thermostat Sandwich adapter for the
> Subaru, and find a cooler core someplace.
>
> Then just have a local hydraulic shop make up some
> lines for cheap.
>
> Chris

oohh, I like that:
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/1599/Mocal_Sandwich_Plate

but does it have to go over the stock location? I like the idea of relocating my oil filter out from underneath the engine. more insurance.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

The filter in a subaru is in a GREAT spot.

super easy to change, and does not make a mess when you do so!

Go ahead and move it elsewhere, but not sure where...

I've crunched oil pans, etc, and never smashed the filter.

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Chris

This is what happens when you crunch the filter on a subaru:


Well, actually the filter was fine, it was just that the exhaust manifolds got pushed back into the filter and broke the pipe off from the block. Took a chunk of the block with it. Oppsies.

Of course it did take a few good hits to do it:



Watch as he enters the stadium and hits, see the little red light next to the tach that comes on? Thats the oil pressure warning light...

I fixed it now, though. At least until he lands on the nose 3 times in a row again.

> > Most clever people are alot better to just go
> buy the Mocal Thermostat Sandwich adapter

I second the Mocal recommendation. I just did a bunch of net.reserach on sandwich adaptors and Mocal has the biggest fittings (allowing bigger lines and less pressure drop) and is the only one that doesn't use pipe threads. Sealing with a washer is more compact and allows banjo fittings in cases where those make more sense.

Anybody know if the 2nd-generation RX-7 had thermostats built into their oil coolers yet? RX-8s do, but they're not cheap yet...

-Dave

eyesoreracing Wrote:
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(allowing bigger
> lines and less pressure drop)

>
> -Dave
>


So La Place was wrong? Isn't the pressure within a cylinder inversely related to it's length and width?

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Gone fishing

Put yourself in my shoes, which is to say not already knowing what you're thinking. and read this sentence: "the pressure within a cylinder is inversely related to it's length and width."

Does it make any sense to you? I'm not saying its true or false, I'm saying its neither. How long is a string?

re-word and I'll try harder to understand.

-Dave

eyesoreracing Wrote:
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> > > Most clever people are alot better to
> just go
> > buy the Mocal Thermostat Sandwich adapter
>
> I second the Mocal recommendation. I just did a
> bunch of net.reserach on sandwich adaptors and
> Mocal has the biggest fittings (allowing bigger
> lines and less pressure drop) and is the only one
> that doesn't use pipe threads. Sealing with a
> washer is more compact and allows banjo fittings
> in cases where those make more sense.

Nothing a drill and tap can't fix, $5 at the wrecking yard for a Volvo SETRAB sandwich plate with thermostat.

>
> Anybody know if the 2nd-generation RX-7 had
> thermostats built into their oil coolers yet?
> RX-8s do, but they're not cheap yet...

Of course they do, why do you think I've been pushing them for the last 20 years?

>
> -Dave
>

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eyesoreracing Wrote:
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> Put yourself in my shoes, which is to say not
> already knowing what you're thinking. and read
> this sentence: "the pressure within a cylinder is
> inversely related to it's length and width."
>
> Does it make any sense to you? I'm not saying its
> true or false, I'm saying its neither. How long is
> a string?
>
> re-word and I'll try harder to understand.
>
> -Dave


Sorry, I thought that because of laPlaces Law that the larger the oil line used, the lower the pressure would be. Would I not want to keep the oil lines on the small size and not excessively long? I learned that quote in relationship to delivering IV fluid or flow of blood through the body. What am I missing?

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Gone fishing

> > Mocal has the biggest fittings (allowing
> bigger
> > lines and less pressure drop) and is the only
> one
> > that doesn't use pipe threads. Sealing with
> a
> > washer is more compact and allows banjo
> fittings
> > in cases where those make more sense.
>
> Nothing a drill and tap can't fix, $5 at the
> wrecking yard for a Volvo SETRAB sandwich plate
> with thermostat.

You need a big drill, a big tap, and mill to make the sealing surface flat. I think that'll add up to more than the $35 difference.

On the other hand, if you can get a sandwich for $5, who cares what kind of fittings it has? Hooray for junkyards.

So what thread size do Volvo oil filters use and which Volvos am I looking for?


> > Anybody know if the 2nd-generation RX-7 had
> > thermostats built into their oil coolers
> yet?
> > RX-8s do, but they're not cheap yet...
>
> Of course they do, why do you think I've been
> pushing them for the last 20 years?

Not to be a dick, but the 2nd gen came out 22 years ago. Were you really pushing 2-year old technology for junkyard hunters?

Ok, that was to be a dick... I admit it.

-Dave

david amor Wrote:
> Sorry, I thought that because of laPlaces Law that
> the larger the oil line used, the lower the
> pressure would be. Would I not want to keep the
> oil lines on the small size and not excessively
> long? I learned that quote in relationship to
> delivering IV fluid or flow of blood through the
> body. What am I missing?

That's hillarious. I was scrolling back through the thread trying to figure out who this LaPlace dude was and what he had said to get you thinking all inside-out!

I'm not actually familiar with that law, but my 10 minutes of research suggests that it doesn't apply at this scale. The only laPlace stuff I could find is used for predicting capillary pressure due to surface tenson. That effect is way too small to have any significant impact in a 3/4" ID hose.

But, yes, shorter is still better.

-D

Volvo fittings are 1/2" bsp, I think.

That's good to know, but actually what I meant was what size thread is used on the oil filter itself? Trying to see if it matches a Nissan, which is 3/4-16.

-Dave

eyesoreracing Wrote:
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> So what thread size do Volvo oil filters use and
> which Volvos am I looking for?
>
> All Volvo spin-on filters are 3/4-16. Someone else will have to help with the cars the adapters came on but I'd suspect anything with a Turbo.

>

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count

eyesoreracing Wrote:
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> That's good to know, but actually what I meant was
> what size thread is used on the oil filter itself?
> Trying to see if it matches a Nissan, which is
> 3/4-16.
>
> -Dave
Same- the filters are and the block should be 3/4-16. Same as L-series Nissan,SAAB,Ford, Most Chryslers, old Toyotas and a few more.

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Bruce Beauvais
Too many SAABs to count