That website has so much awesome crap.....Now I have too many new project ideas! Thanks for the link

Ted Andkilde Wrote:
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> >
> These guys sell the stands but they're in England
> so the shipping would make them cost prohibitive
> but they have nice pictures to either work from
> yourself or show your fabricator.
>
> Cheers, Ted
>
> Pure mathematics is the enemy of every truly
> creative man -- Sir Alec

Robin Fleguel Wrote:
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> Mine - exact copies of the (early) SRT Canada
> stands.
>
> Robin
>


Do you suppose just one upright would be enough? I don't know if having the triangle is needed. Make a T instead ?

Kind of a scary thought Gene. More because you're adding a new point of failure at the T junction since there is new weird forces there.
Mark did FEA or whatever that stress analysis shit is called on the style we're building. With 3/4 rod it was more than strong enough and the weak point was right where expected. Interestingly, Gussetting the inside, like on the motorsport tools doesn't actually increase the strength, but does look pretty cool.
We're going to build a few sets when we get back from India

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Grant Hughes

cbombara Wrote:
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> That website has so much awesome crap.....Now I
> have too many new project ideas! Thanks for the
> link


I have to give the credit to Michael who found it a few months back.

Cheers, Ted

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Pure mathematics is the enemy of every truly creative man -- Sir Alec

cbombara Wrote:
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> That website has so much awesome crap.....Now I
> have too many new project ideas! Thanks for the
> link
>
> Ted Andkilde Wrote:
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> -----
> > >
> > These guys sell the stands but they're in
> England
> > so the shipping would make them cost
> prohibitive
> > but they have nice pictures to either work
> from
> > yourself or show your fabricator.
> >
> > Cheers, Ted
> >
> > Pure mathematics is the enemy of every truly
> > creative man -- Sir Alec
>
>
>


the stands are expensive in general, but I just went through it and they have a lot of stuff that's a lot cheaper than what I've seen around here (aluminum tape, certain tools, flap discs)...trying to see if they'll ship to the US, not an option it looks like.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

my dad made these up over the weekend. we used 3/4 rod and 1x.120 square. they are 18" bottom to center, just need to ad the sill plates to the car now. what do you think?

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-KTurner
Stomp down on the exhilarator and hold on to the wheel.

Any thoughts about using square vs round tubing? Seems like I see a lot of the pro's using round

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-Jason

Square tube is easier to cut, miter, and get fit right.

Round tube is sexier...

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Chris

mack73 Wrote:
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> Any thoughts about using square vs round tubing?
> Seems like I see a lot of the pro's using round
>
> 94 Golf
> www.Mack73.com


There's lots of the pro's ??????

I had no idea there were lot of the pro's .

Where are lot of the pro's ????

In North America?

Dayum, live and learn, huh?

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> mack73 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Any thoughts about using square vs round
> tubing?
> > Seems like I see a lot of the pro's using
> round
> >
> > 94 Golf
> > www.Mack73.com
>
>
> There's lots of the pro's ??????
>
> I had no idea there were lot of the pro's .
>
> Where are lot of the pro's ????
>
> In North America?
>
> Dayum, live and learn, huh?
>
>
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca


stop being naive, lol, there are pro drivers in North America. They may not be the best drivers in the world, but they still are pro drivers.

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> john vanlandingham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > mack73 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Any thoughts about using square vs
> round
> > tubing?
> > > Seems like I see a lot of the pro's
> using
> > round
> > >
> > > 94 Golf
> > > www.Mack73.com
> >
> >
> > There's lots of the pro's ??????
> >
> > I had no idea there were lot of the pro's .
> >
> > Where are lot of the pro's ????
> >
> > In North America?
> >
> > Dayum, live and learn, huh?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Vanlandingham
> > Sleezattle, WA, USA
> >
> > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
> >
> > www.jvab.f4.ca
>
>
> stop being naive, lol, there are pro drivers in
> North America. They may not be the best drivers in
> the world, but they still are pro drivers.
>
>
> Feisty Peacock?


Name names. I don't know ANYBODY in North America Whose SOLE income comes from Rally. That's how I'd define a "Pro"

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Gone fishing

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/professional


Its not JUST being paid.

So, under this,

ACP, Pastrana, Block, Antonie (did I get that right?), Pat Richard, Pinker, Foust...

The successful national drivers I would consider pro.

"Oh, but they're only successful HERE." Wow. OK, they're still successful though.

"Well, only because no one here ACTUALLY KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE." Way to slam Adam Crane, Tom Burress, Mark Mager, Cody Crane, John Lane.....

"But they dont count" Because you never attack people that arent corporate backed?

"But but, well, ENERGY DRINKS WILL KILL US ALL!/SUBARU IS THE WORST THING EVER/ONLY FORD AND VOLVO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RALLY/INSERT OTHER ABSURD THINGS HERE" Now your just being ridiculous.


When you have a good argument of why they aren't considered a pro, let me know. Some of you are taking vendettas way to far, and beating dead horses BEYOND the point of jello and glue.

And to whom ever responds, please, don't quote this, if you start shouting I'll realize its me whom your talking to. Quoting me just makes it harder to read.

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Some children think words mean whatever they have a whim for them to mean.
Pro is short for "Profession" and profession, although the roots once were "what you profess"--or CLAIM----so in an unintentionally ironic way maybe could be looked at as being close to what Timmy means---it is generally accepted to mean "a skilled occupartion that's pays your fuckin bills like mortgage, electricity, food, buys your cars etc".

I have never seen a definition of pro being "Extravagantly wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to beat some low budget guys" .


You simply don't get it, kid.

You are impressed with what you've seen but you have no real yardstick to compare what you've seen with anything else.

Does "Pro" mean "It impresses me"?

Guess it means anything anybody wants it do mean.

As they say in California: "Like, whatever, doooood"

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

easy guys,

John, who said that my use of the word "Pro's" was talking about North America

But I still don't see an answer to Round vs. Square

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-Jason

mack73 Wrote:
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> easy guys,

I'm am taking it easy on Timmy, and we talk on the phone. about the same shit.

To anybody who has done something as a PROFESSION, people playing at things and then trumpeting their paying for play as "professional" is demeaning and insulting to those who have worked hard to actually do professional level work.

And kids defending the devaluation of both the reality of and the meaning of the word "Professional" or "Pro" has always annoyed the fuck out of me both before I was a professional in motorsports and after I quit.

>
> John, who said that my use of the word "Pro's" was
> talking about North America

You didn't but Timmy certainly did and listed quite a list of people who we all know full well pay their mortgages via other persuits, didya notice?
>
> But I still don't see an answer to Round vs.
> Square

Ford has used both, I have done square, VW seems to like round on later stuff, square on earlier.

If the fit was decent square plug ins into square tube would certainly resist rotation better, maybe that's good, maybe they'll bind when jacking down one end.

Since nothing means anything, then things are all the same so do "like whatever!!"
>
> 94 Golf
> www.Mack73.com

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.