brianallmotor Brian R. Barton Godlike Moderator Location: The hills of West Virginia Join Date: 02/01/2009 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 220 Rally Car: Mazda 323 BP-T |
how do you tell what setting you are on 0, 1, 2, 3??? on mine the 0 is lined up with the inside of the shock body just like in this picture.
http://www.dmsnorthamerica.com/tech_articles/1/images/50mm-adjust.jpg the bump setting for the rear is 12 counterclockwise towards soft, and front 15 counterclockwise towards soft... the rear end hops going down the highway... should i go to 20 in the rear???? |
brianallmotor Brian R. Barton Godlike Moderator Location: The hills of West Virginia Join Date: 02/01/2009 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 220 Rally Car: Mazda 323 BP-T |
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david amor david amor Infallible Moderator Location: Stoney Creek Ontario Join Date: 03/22/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 458 |
I can't tell from the pic but yeah theres a little red? marking on the adjuster. Line that up with the number. IIRC it only rotates in one direction. I found the adjustments on the DMS change the feel of the car very very little if at all. They do work well, when they work.
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Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > If the red paint mark is gone off the rebound hex > look for a "V" engraved on one of the sides of the > hex. Always turn it clockwise. If you are having > a bouncy rear end try more rebound. Or maybe they > need a rebuld. Or maybe it's normal. It's DMS. So do they keep adjusting clockwise and reset thru zero at some point? I've never messed with DMS (too poor) |
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Andrew_Frick Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Correct. There are only 4 rebound settings. Once > you get to 3 it goes back to zero on the next > turn. Bump settings move in either direction, and > will come to a stop at full hard if that feature > hasn't broken in the shock yet. To further clarify so you understand what's actually happening, bump is a needle and seat valve and with rebound you are lining up various orifices (that sounds mildly suggestive, I know.) The main reason for not turning the rebound backwards is the holes may not line up properly due to backlash. |
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brianallmotor Brian R. Barton Godlike Moderator Location: The hills of West Virginia Join Date: 02/01/2009 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 220 Rally Car: Mazda 323 BP-T |
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Dazed_Driver Banned Mod Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
Well, is it rebound dampening or rebound speed?
My fox fork and shock on my mountain bike are controlled via rebound dampening. IE, 0 is the fast rebound, and 16 is the slow. (or 0-8 on the shock). It took me a try to figure that out, haha. The greater the number, the more dampening, so the slower the rebound. Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
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brianallmotor Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > which is the quickest rebound and the slowest > rebound?? is 0 super quick rebound? or is 3 the > quickest rebound ?? does anyone know for a fact? > i would guess that 3 would be a quicker rebound > than 0 or 1... 0 is the softest (or fastest the way you are asking it) and 3 is the firmest (or slowest.) Mind you, it's not a terribly big range on the DMS... |
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Odi at Feal Suspension put these on a shock dyno and said there's only a 15% difference between full hard/full soft on the compression adjustment....so I would assume the rebound is close.
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Jon Burke Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Odi at Feal Suspension put these on a shock dyno > and said there's only a 15% difference between > full hard/full soft on the compression > adjustment....so I would assume the rebound is > close. However they ARE adjustable which means boys can diddle with a knob, and believe they're doing important things. I believe it's called "the placebo effect", and should never be discounted. We are all, after all, extremely sensitive and finicky drivers and can all tell the difference in handling from the slightest weight change. I for example can feel huge difference in how the car handles after the co-driver takes a big dump, so i make sure they don't wait to mid event. Even a big peeee changes everything. of course.... > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW > Blog: > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10 John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Burke Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Odi at Feal Suspension put these on a shock > dyno > > and said there's only a 15% difference > between > > full hard/full soft on the compression > > adjustment....so I would assume the rebound > is > > close. > > However they ARE adjustable which means boys can > diddle with a knob, and believe they're doing > important things. > I believe it's called "the placebo effect", and > should never be discounted. > > We are all, after all, extremely sensitive and > finicky drivers and can all tell the difference in > handling from the slightest weight change. > I for example can feel huge difference in how the > car handles after the co-driver takes a big dump, > so i make sure they don't wait to mid event. > Even a big peeee changes everything. > of course.... > > > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW > > Blog: > > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10 > > > > > John Vanlandingham > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > www.rallyrace.net/jvab > CALL +1 206 431-9696 > Remember! Pacific Standard Time > is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Obviously you have NO sense of feeling what so ever JVL. Such huge changes that you are talking of would make the car COMPLETELY UN-DRIVABLE! I find that a rock stuck in a tire groove makes the cars handling worthless and causes me to crash in a fiery ball ! The co-driver once lost a hair from his head and we chased suspension setting all event try to get the handling back !! As always IMHO SEAN TENNIS KF7JJR SEATTLE, WASHINGTON SAAB 99, SAAB 850 SAAB V4, SAAB 99T |
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SEANT Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > john vanlandingham Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Jon Burke Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Odi at Feal Suspension put these on a > shock > > dyno > > > and said there's only a 15% difference > > between > > > full hard/full soft on the compression > > > adjustment....so I would assume the > rebound > > is > > > close. > > > > However they ARE adjustable which means boys > can > > diddle with a knob, and believe they're > doing > > important things. > > I believe it's called "the placebo effect", > and > > should never be discounted. > > > > We are all, after all, extremely sensitive > and > > finicky drivers and can all tell the > difference in > > handling from the slightest weight change. > > I for example can feel huge difference in how > the > > car handles after the co-driver takes a big > dump, > > so i make sure they don't wait to mid event. > > Even a big peeee changes everything. > > of course.... > > > > > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW > > > Blog: > > > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10 > > > > > > > > > > John Vanlandingham > > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > > > www.rallyrace.net/jvab > > CALL +1 206 431-9696 > > Remember! Pacific Standard Time > > is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. > > Obviously you have NO sense of feeling what so > ever JVL. Such huge changes that you are talking > of would make the car COMPLETELY UN-DRIVABLE! I > find that a rock stuck in a tire groove makes the > cars handling worthless and causes me to crash in > a fiery ball ! The co-driver once lost a hair from > his head and we chased suspension setting all > event try to get the handling back !! > > > As always IMHO > > SEAN TENNIS > SEATTLE, WASHINGTON > SAAB 99, SAAB 850 Fawk, JV hardly even notices when a wheel comes off the car... |