heymagic Wrote:
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> mack73 Wrote:
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> > This was on my exhaust list as a possible
> joint -
> > same issue as the summit one, but cheaper as
> it's
> > agricultural designed
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> >
> >
> > 94 Golf
> > www.Mack73.com
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> I'd spend the extra $14 and get the the stainless
> one. Way stronger and only needs one wrench ( deep
> socket) to take apart.
>

Ok Gene, How about 3 dollars more for the SS version from the same place http://store.airflo.com/43j-250s.html
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SS can be an issue for sure ( bolts I mean ). If the band on the 2nd clamp that Jason found is stainless then that's the deal. Use a cheap bolt and break it if you have to. Best of both worlds.

So are V bands a better way to go then a spring held slip fit? (I'm thinking from the header to the main exhaust with cat and then to the muffler)

OH, also, whats up with cats at the rear of the exhaust....?

EDIT: *facepalm* DOH

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http://himni-racing.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_30&products_id=85

We use these. Well, that's where I got all of mine.

I think they may be ordering them here now as their mandrel bends are pretty affordable too.
http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/flanges-v-bands-36/v-band-assemblies-103/

Dave Kern's TR30R WRC turbo is V-band for everything. To the manifold, downpipe, inlet, outlet, etc. I have a T3 v-band adapter, but haven't actually used it since it'd require the center mount header to move the turbo away from firewall to fit it and I have a 3" downpipe I'm perfectly happy with.

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Oh yeah, one other nice thing about v-band is, on my car, I just get it on there, then rotate until it's as close as possible to the diff/beam, then tighten it on. Didn't have to worry about being perfect in the design phase.

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Grant Hughes

yous guys must be rich....I know how effed up my exhaust got under the rabbit...another $120+ on some clamps really isn't in the budget right now.

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Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> OH, also, whats up with cats at the rear of the
> exhaust....?
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> EDIT: *facepalm* DOH
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>

On a rally car the reasoning for this is so it will be less likely to be smashed and if it does get clogged up you can knock the element out with a tire iron or something or cut it off. Myself, I've used a quick release V-band clamp back there to hold the cat on Dave Hintz's car. Like the good stainless T-bolt clamp shown above but instead of a bolt it uses an over center quick release lever. For added insurance that an errant rock didn't knock the lever open (it would be pretty hard to do, they are tight) I safety wired the lever. In the truck was a spare cat all set up for a quick swap if needed.

Ah! Thanks. I've been wondering about that.

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Tom B Wrote:
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> yous guys must be rich....I know how effed up my
> exhaust got under the rabbit...another $120+ on
> some clamps really isn't in the budget right now.
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Yeah, seriously, Spring held slip fit is looking really good right now, haha. Maybe one or two v bands, but slip fit for anything that doesnt need to be welded.

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Tom B Wrote:
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> yous guys must be rich....I know how effed up my
> exhaust got under the rabbit...another $120+ on
> some clamps really isn't in the budget right now.
>

Oops, sorry. I'm used to making $5000 headers for race cars...

lol Theres a shop around here that do those. 1k a cylinder. maybe more now.

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What is this spring slip fit nonsense ya'll talking bout? I haven't ever seen it.
I just rerouted the money away from my carbon fiber budget to afford my single and superbly convenient V-band.
Funny thing is I bought two or three extras to use to have a test pipe so I could run without a cat for the hill climbs, but then in typical pre-rally time crunch just welded the cat in without them. Oh and one for the downpipe. So I have three of the clamps and 7 of the weld on flanges extra laying in the basement. Someday I'm sure I'll use them or trade them with a friend for something of use.
Kind of like all the AN-3 brake hardware I gave away for Bis's new STI a few weeks ago.

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hey hey, my carbon came into my possession for free otherwise it'd be aluminum....you know how it is, all the fun stuff you get at the start of the project gets the money, then everything near the end gets the cheap and easy so you can actually afford to run an event.

I was thinking something like this for the joints:

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Tom B.

You can't run the slip fit on those very loose.

Robert.

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versus the spring style?

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