Jon Burke Wrote:
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> anyone got a quick 'how to/parts list' to do this
> on a Subaru?
>
> I've wanted to add an oiler cooler for a while
> now, and I like moving the oil filter out from
> underneath the car for 1) protection (just in
> case/act of god kind of stuff), and 2) easier to
> access since I change my filter after every event,
> but not all of the oil.
>
> mounting the plate seems the most difficult in an
> already tight Suby engine bay...and I have no
> experience plumbing this kind of stuff, but
> doesn't seem too difficult.
>
> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10

Take one of these:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=1230
In subaru M20x1.5 flavor

Add one of these:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=OILFILTHEAD
Any kind you want.

Then maybe some of these bits:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=OILCOOL

And some from in here:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/advcat.asp?CategoryID=PLUMBING

And you're good to go.

Oh, I was thinking it was engine, front end, and some suspension stuff. I thought. Guess not

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Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned.

Carl S Wrote:
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> Jon Burke Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > anyone got a quick 'how to/parts list' to do
> this
> > on a Subaru?
> >
> > I've wanted to add an oiler cooler for a
> while
> > now, and I like moving the oil filter out
> from
> > underneath the car for 1) protection (just
> in
> > case/act of god kind of stuff), and 2) easier
> to
> > access since I change my filter after every
> event,
> > but not all of the oil.
> >
> > mounting the plate seems the most difficult
> in an
> > already tight Suby engine bay...and I have
> no
> > experience plumbing this kind of stuff, but
> > doesn't seem too difficult.
> >
> > Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> > Blog:
> > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10
>
> Take one of these:
>
> In subaru M20x1.5 flavor
>
> Add one of these:
>
> Any kind you want.
>
> Then maybe some of these bits:
>
>
> And some from in here:
>
>
> And you're good to go.
>


gracias.....damned, that SS braided hose and AN fitting are fawking expensive!

I know JVL has a 'low cost option' our there somewhere....so what is it?

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> Oh, I was thinking it was engine, front end, and
> some suspension stuff. I thought. Guess not
>
> Feisty Peacock?
>
>


The Silvia stuff is all bolt-on, so its much less hassle to have a U.S. Vin#.

More than you ever wanted to know:
http://www.modified.com/tech/0205scc_s13_nissan_silvia/index.html

-Dave



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2009 08:33PM by eyesoreracing.

Topi Wrote:
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> I don't understand why can't you use the Volvo
> plate to 'merican remote head. The treat is same
> and both take the same, most common, filter.


Holy shit, that's so obvious! Brilliant!

Screw the Volvo, I can use the Setrab thermostat I already have.

-Dave

P.S. Speaking of Volvo, I just helped a friend snag a radiator, intercooler, oil cooler, oil cooler lines, and mounts for all three coolers and a nice silicone elbow hose from a 760 turbo, plus a bosch blow-off valve and some nice aluminum intercooler piping from a Saab 9-3. The whole pile was $90. Its all going in a turbo Miata.

Jon Burke Wrote:
>
> gracias.....damned, that SS braided hose and AN
> fitting are fawking expensive!
>
> I know JVL has a 'low cost option' our there
> somewhere....so what is it?
>
> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10


We did an oil cooler in our Lemon for ~$15 total.

Oil cooler was from a Volvo turbo. Very nice Setrab cooler. $8.

half the oil lines came with the volvo cooler. Serious braided steel shit with a rubber outer liner to make them look cheap to the guy at the junkyard checkout. $2.

Volvo sandwich plate was free, since the junkyard guy didn't notice it on the end of the lines. It didn't actually fit the Miata, though. Too bulky. We used something equivalent that was laying around.

To fit the sandwich plate, we needed a longer filter stud. Pulled one out of a drawer. It came from a later Miata that had a factory oil/water cooler sandwiched under the filter.

We had to custom-make a nut that would hold the sandwich plate centered on the stud (the hole in the middle of the sandwich was much bigger than the stud). We found an axle nut from a Lotus Exige had the same thread, so we just chucked it in the lathe to cut a step into the flange side of the nut. The flange located the sandwich plate. Then we shortened the nut so it wouldn't interfere with the filter itself.

Finally, the Volvo hoses were too short, so we got some barbed hose splices from the hardware store and spliced them to some high-pressure oil hose (not braided steel, just the 200 psi, $2/foot stuff).

3 endurance races later, it hasn't leaked a drop.

-Dave

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> anyone got a quick 'how to/parts list' to do this
> on a Subaru?
>
> I've wanted to add an oiler cooler for a while
> now, and I like moving the oil filter out from
> underneath the car for 1) protection (just in
> case/act of god kind of stuff), and 2) easier to
> access since I change my filter after every event,
> but not all of the oil.
>
> mounting the plate seems the most difficult in an
> already tight Suby engine bay...and I have no
> experience plumbing this kind of stuff, but
> doesn't seem too difficult.
>
> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10

Here's what I did on Dave Hintz's WRX to install an oil cooler. I did not relocate the filter but used a sandwich plate with a thermostat. I ordered the correct Subaru thread hollow bolt but they sent me some Amerikanski thing for a GM V-6 instead. No biggie, I needed to space lower so the fittings would come out below the timing cover, anyway. So I welded the stock hollow bolt that held on the stock water/oil cooler sandwich plate (which I tossed) to the filter end of the hollow bolt that came with the V-6 sandwich plate, made the proper thickness aluminum spacer and bolted that all together with o-rings/gaskets in between. That allowed the fittings to come out perfectly underneath the timing cover with a couple of 90 degree fittings fitting perfectly next to the timing cover and hoses runing to the Setrab oil cooler just in front of the radiator. Plus the GM V-6 oil filter is bigger than the stock Subaru filter as well. THis was actually cheaper to do than those kits you can buy for Subarus and cleaner install I think, too.

It does take a lot of nose landings to do in the oil filter on a subaru. Relocation isnt required, and a sandwich plate is easy.

Heres an example of what it takes to break off the oil filter in a subaru:



You can see on the 3rd nose landing (back in to the stadium) is where the oil filter breaks off and it loses pressure (warning light comes on.)

This is what broke:

I wasnt able to fix that on the stadium floor...damn!

The car had 1/4 skid plate with the usual prodrive style mount in the front. I guess it could have used another mount to the very front of the skid plate from the front bumper bracket area.

Thanks Dave....but fabbing up aluminum spacers and shit just ain't my bag, baby...I just don't have that kind of full 'machine shop' tools or skills...I need a bolt-on option.

I don't have any spare Lotus bolts/nuts laying around either


Carl...thx for the in-car vid, that was cool...hadn't seen that before. Were the nose-dives just from over driving the car or was something messed in the suspension or something that forced the nose down everytime the car got air?


not 'needed' right now as I'm not running a lot of boost in the car so less chance of anything going 'boom', so plenty of time to search the forums and look for good used shit between now and next summer. Pegasus even has some 'scratch and dent' stuff right now too.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> Were the
> nose-dives just from over driving the car or was
> something messed in the suspension or something
> that forced the nose down everytime the car got
> air?
>

Too fast! was the problem.

i think an Oil cooler on a subaru should not be a question, rather a nessessity.


Ditch the factory "oil warmer", and cap off the lines. Get a mocal sandwich plate/thermostat, and run -10AN lines!

you must keep the lines big or else they will be smaller than the passages inside the engine.

Don't bother ordering all the fancy pants stainless braided line and junk. Go to the local Hydraulics shop, that deals with big stuff, and sells stuff from Parker. Tell them it's oil, and like 300degrees...they know the hose you should use, and will get you everything you need.

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Chris

thx Chris....what/where is the factory 'oil warmer'? never heard of it.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

The water jacket that's at the filter.

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Grant Hughes

Carl S Wrote:
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> It does take a lot of nose landings to do in the
> oil filter on a subaru. Relocation isnt required,
> and a sandwich plate is easy.
>
> Heres an example of what it takes to break off the
> oil filter in a subaru:
>
> You can see on the 3rd nose landing (back in to
> the stadium) is where the oil filter breaks off
> and it loses pressure (warning light comes on.)
>
> This is what broke:
>
> I wasnt able to fix that on the stadium
> floor...damn!
>
> The car had 1/4 skid plate with the usual prodrive
> style mount in the front. I guess it could have
> used another mount to the very front of the skid
> plate from the front bumper bracket area.


Yeah X-Games, whatever. You deserve whatever damage you get there, says I. That would never happen in a real rally (at least in this country, lol) unless you went off a cliff or somethng.

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> Thanks Dave....but fabbing up aluminum spacers and
> shit just ain't my bag, baby...I just don't have
> that kind of full 'machine shop' tools or
> skills...I need a bolt-on option.
>

I did no machining. I do not have a lathe or mill or anything. Just a drill press and a band saw were used. The spacer does't need to be that thick.


> I don't have any spare Lotus bolts/nuts laying
> around either
>

Don't recall saying I used any Lotus bolts. Just the stock Subaru bolt welded to the bolt that came with the sandwich plate. Not really that difficult.
>
>