Interesting Transfer Boxes

http://www.sadev-tm.com/en/

Some KICK ass hardware there.. I'm scared to ask the price though.

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

hudson Wrote:
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> I wonder how hard it would be to get a LoCost as
> rally "legal" that might make the thing more
> affordable!


Never, unfortunately, open cars are banned, fiberglass body panels are banned, self built vehicles are banned.

Hillclimb is the only form of motorsport left in North America, that allows significant levels of innovation and appeals to me. Here's to hoping RA doesn't muck it up too much before we get there .

t

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Ted Andkilde Wrote:
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> Never, unfortunately, open cars are banned,
> fiberglass body panels are banned, self built
> vehicles are banned.
>
> Hillclimb is the only form of motorsport left in
> North America, that allows significant levels of
> innovation and appeals to me. Here's to hoping RA
> doesn't muck it up too much before we get there .

I was being a little tongue in cheek there.

Frankly spaceframed cars is exactly what rally in north america needs (imo). It would certainly make car prep easier

I wonder how many rallyist are seeing any meaningful money for rocking brand x? (it's been a while since I've paid attention to contingency funds).

BTW: AFAIK you're allowed glass panels that are bolt on and off.. that's why I have a hope for the Simca (almost everything bolts on/off).

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

hudson Wrote:
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> unless removable door bars are
> legal by the time I get a car built I'll have a
> hard time convincing myself I want that much cage
> in a car that needs it 2 weekends a year.
>

Removable door bars are legal. Take a read of fia article 253.

"8.3.2.1.2 Doorbars :
One or more longitudinal members must be fitted at each side of
the vehicle according to Drawings 253-8, 253-9, 253-10 and 253-
11 (Drawings 253-9, 253-10 and 253-11 for cars homologated as
from 01/01/2007).
They may be removable.[b/]"

And actually everything but the main cage structure can be removable (by one of the fia-approved methods.) The main cage being the main hoop, side laterals, rear backstays, and transverse windshield bar.

So the X in the main hoop, A-pillar reinforcements, door bars, roof bars, and any of the other optional reinforcements can all be removable. Additionally the cage may be mounted to the car by bolts using the methods approved in the article, it isnt required to be welded in.

At least thats what I get out of reading through the fia cage regulations.

Carl S Wrote:
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> hudson Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > unless removable door bars are
> > legal by the time I get a car built I'll have
> a
> > hard time convincing myself I want that much
> cage
> > in a car that needs it 2 weekends a year.
> >
>
> Removable door bars are legal. Take a read of fia
> article 253.
>
> "8.3.2.1.2 Doorbars :
> One or more longitudinal members must be fitted at
> each side of
> the vehicle according to Drawings 253-8, 253-9,
> 253-10 and 253-
> 11 (Drawings 253-9, 253-10 and 253-11 for cars
> homologated as
> from 01/01/2007).
> They may be removable."
>
> And actually everything but the main cage
> structure can be removable (by one of the
> fia-approved methods.) The main cage being the
> main hoop, side laterals, rear backstays, and
> transverse windshield bar.
>
> So the X in the main hoop, A-pillar
> reinforcements, door bars, roof bars, and any of
> the other optional reinforcements can all be
> removable. Additionally the cage may be mounted
> to the car by bolts using the methods approved in
> the article, it isnt required to be welded in.
>
> At least thats what I get out of reading through
> the fia cage regulations.

I was being tongue in cheek with the door bar comment as in by the time I get a cage built a force field will be required kinda thing..

I've seen removable door bars, which is great. The X etc is news to me though. If it's allowed, that would be great.. you could actually try and use the car as weekend or whatever transportation..

I'm getting close to actually getting to where a build of some kind is foreseable..

I just need to find a place to stuff the shells I have in waiting where they won't deteriate like crazy and cost me all my build money in storage!

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Andrew M
Onterrible
30ish

> But you're stuck dealing with the relatively awful
> Haldex electronically controlled awd which is
> sorta OK-ish for a hairdresser's car, but not much
> else. And you have 5 reverse gears and one forward
> unless you're able to do some diff flippery.
>

Actually the HALDEX is an incredible piece of equipment, originally developed while rallycrossing, programmable with a lap top, self contained pump & fully adjustable LSD lock-up capabilities to suit surface grip, can even be set up to correct/adjust LSD lock-up based on wheel slip live on road surface from feed back of wheel sensors ...

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As always IMHO

SEAN TENNIS KF7JJR
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
SAAB 99, SAAB 850
SAAB V4, SAAB 99T

Ted Andkilde Wrote:
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> Yeah, the entry fees are reasonable and you get a
> bunch of runs in on a weekend. RA has gotten into
> bed with the east coast hillclimb circuit which
> scares me a bit -- I can see this jacking up the
> entry fees and adding all sorts of extraneous
> safety crap and classing restrictions as a
> consequence. Might just be doom-saying, but...


Pennsylvania hillclimbs are still SCCA-santioned events.

RA would be nesting in with the New England Hillclimb series.

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