Heat Shielding

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> > Jon Burke Wrote:
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> > > i don't know what's on the tranny
> tunnel,
> > but
> > > isn't that just aluminum tape?
> > >
> > > That's what I have on my firewall around
> the
> > > turbo, and even taped to the corner of
> my
> > top
> > > mount intercooler.
> > >
> > > had a fire last month at a rallyX (of
> all
> > placeS)
> > > when one of the p-steering lines burst
> and
> > had a
> > > nice little engine bay fire. Tape
> stayed on
> > fine,
> > > just wiped it down.
> > >
> > > Its expensive, but I found a full roll
> online
> > for
> > > like $50 somewhere.
> > >
> > > Pegasus racing has the nice gold
> wrapping
> > stuff
> > > that looks like the inside of the space
> > shuttle.
> > >
> > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> > > Blog:
> > > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Edited 1 times. Last edit at Jan 25,
> 2010 by
> > Jon
> > > Burke.
> >
> >
> > You just used regular al foil tape? there's
> > nothing fancy about it?
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
> >
> >
>
> define 'fancy'?
>
> this stuff:
>
>
> I'd call $50 for 60 yards pretty fucking fancy.
>
>
>
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> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10

I've never bought a roll of AL foil tape. I figured the HVAC duct stuff might be cheaper then 50 bucks. Looking through that 3m link, it looks like there really is basically one style of foil tape. I'm not after FANCY, I AM after the RIGHT stuff, hence my question.


It's looking like foil tape or that big sheet stuff.... but I don't think I need enough to warrant the big sheet stuff.

why did Logic put his on the inside? I meant to ask that earlier. Ideas?

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Another great sound prof and shield is called Peal & Seal comes in a roll at homey depot or lowes in the roofing area. Smells like tar for a while but onece that goes goes away its awsome stuff.

Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> --------------------------------------------------Why did Logic put his on the inside? I meant to
> ask that earlier. Ideas?
>
>
>
> Feisty Peacock?
>
>

He's covering up a Ken Block/Monster decal....

Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> Jon Burke Wrote:
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> > Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Jon Burke Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > i don't know what's on the tranny
> > tunnel,
> > > but
> > > > isn't that just aluminum tape?
> > > >
> > > > That's what I have on my firewall
> around
> > the
> > > > turbo, and even taped to the corner
> of
> > my
> > > top
> > > > mount intercooler.
> > > >
> > > > had a fire last month at a rallyX
> (of
> > all
> > > placeS)
> > > > when one of the p-steering lines
> burst
> > and
> > > had a
> > > > nice little engine bay fire. Tape
> > stayed on
> > > fine,
> > > > just wiped it down.
> > > >
> > > > Its expensive, but I found a full
> roll
> > online
> > > for
> > > > like $50 somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > Pegasus racing has the nice gold
> > wrapping
> > > stuff
> > > > that looks like the inside of the
> space
> > > shuttle.
> > > >
> > > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> > > > Blog:
> > > > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Edited 1 times. Last edit at Jan
> 25,
> > 2010 by
> > > Jon
> > > > Burke.
> > >
> > >
> > > You just used regular al foil tape?
> there's
> > > nothing fancy about it?
> > >
> > > Feisty Peacock?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > define 'fancy'?
> >
> > this stuff:
> >
> >
> > I'd call $50 for 60 yards pretty fucking
> fancy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> > Blog:
> > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10
>
> I've never bought a roll of AL foil tape. I
> figured the HVAC duct stuff might be cheaper then
> 50 bucks. Looking through that 3m link, it looks
> like there really is basically one style of foil
> tape. I'm not after FANCY, I AM after the RIGHT
> stuff, hence my question.
>
>

well, regular DUCT tape is VERY different....the 'foil' tape comes in different styles/thicknesses.

cheaper, but I doubt its 3mils thick like the 3M stuff:
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200326746_200326746

http://www.amazon.com/JVCC-AF20-Aluminum-Foil-Tape/dp/B000QDEQQU/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_img_b



I like the 3M stuff cause its malleable and pretty strong. I also use it to cover all the holes in the chassis.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

Pegasus has all kinds of heat barrier stuff:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER

aluminum tape, kevlar blankets, aluminum cloth in sheets, tape rolls, and adhesive backed. They have some pimp looking gold reflective shit too if thats how you roll.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2010 10:05PM by Carl S.

Jon Burke Wrote:
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>
> well, regular DUCT tape is VERY different....the
> 'foil' tape comes in different
> styles/thicknesses.
>
> cheaper, but I doubt its 3mils thick like the 3M
> stuff:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I like the 3M stuff cause its malleable and pretty
> strong. I also use it to cover all the holes in
> the chassis.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10


Well, are we talking the regular grey not shiny tape, or the aluminum duct tape? I thought the aluminum stuff was for HVAC too?

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Dazed_Driver Wrote:
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>
>
> Well, are we talking the regular grey not shiny
> tape, or the aluminum duct tape? I thought the
> aluminum stuff was for HVAC too?
>
> Feisty Peacock?
>
>

now you're confusing me.

you can use it ALL for HVAC if you want.

but duct tape is the usual, gray/black all-purpose, fix anything temporarily, multi-use tape. this has no thermal properties, is NOT what logic used above, and will not withstand engine bay temperatures.

aluminum tape also comes in different thicknesses, specs, etc.

the 3M '425' tape is what I've been using, and is probably close to, if not the same thing, that logic has in that photo above.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

Jon Burke Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Well, are we talking the regular grey not
> shiny
> > tape, or the aluminum duct tape? I thought
> the
> > aluminum stuff was for HVAC too?
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
> >
> >
>
> now you're confusing me.
>
> you can use it ALL for HVAC if you want.
>
> but duct tape is the usual, gray/black
> all-purpose, fix anything temporarily, multi-use
> tape. this has no thermal properties, is NOT what
> logic used above, and will not withstand engine
> bay temperatures.
>
> aluminum tape also comes in different thicknesses,
> specs, etc.
>
> the 3M '425' tape is what I've been using, and is
> probably close to, if not the same thing, that
> logic has in that photo above.
>
>
>
>
> Jon Burke - KI6LSW
> Blog:
> 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10


Oh, ok. I didnt think you could use the grey/black tape for HVAC. I thought thats why they made the aluminum tape.

You may be confused, but you answered my question! haha. Thanks for the help Jon, that actually was useful.

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Jon Burke Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Well, are we talking the regular grey not
> shiny
> > tape, or the aluminum duct tape? I thought
> the
> > aluminum stuff was for HVAC too?
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
> >
> >
>
> now you're confusing me.
>
> you can use it ALL for HVAC if you want.
>
> but duct tape is the usual, gray/black
> all-purpose, fix anything temporarily, multi-use
> tape. this has no thermal properties, is NOT what
> logic used above, and will not withstand engine
> bay temperatures.
>
> aluminum tape also comes in different thicknesses,
> specs, etc.
>
> the 3M '425' tape is what I've been using, and is
> probably close to, if not the same thing, that
> logic has in that photo above.
>


I still don't know why he has reflective tape on the inside of the vehicle. Doesn't do any good there.

Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> Jon Burke Wrote:
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> > Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, are we talking the regular grey
> not
> > shiny
> > > tape, or the aluminum duct tape? I
> thought
> > the
> > > aluminum stuff was for HVAC too?
> > >
> > > Feisty Peacock?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > now you're confusing me.
> >
> > you can use it ALL for HVAC if you want.
> >
> > but duct tape is the usual, gray/black
> > all-purpose, fix anything temporarily,
> multi-use
> > tape. this has no thermal properties, is NOT
> what
> > logic used above, and will not withstand
> engine
> > bay temperatures.
> >
> > aluminum tape also comes in different
> thicknesses,
> > specs, etc.
> >
> > the 3M '425' tape is what I've been using,
> and is
> > probably close to, if not the same thing,
> that
> > logic has in that photo above.
> >
>
>
> I still don't know why he has reflective tape on
> the inside of the vehicle. Doesn't do any good
> there.


I asked that too. I want it for the outside, where it makes sense. the mat would work inside, though, as it's an insulator, I would assume?

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Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
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> I still don't know why he has reflective tape on
> the inside of the vehicle. Doesn't do any good
> there.

I've seen that on a few WRC car pics I've seen. I assume that there is maybe some expensive electronic stuff on the inside that's more sensitive. And it keeps it from getting destroyed from rock spray and snow maybe?

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Grant Hughes