Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
I'm looking for some stick on heat shielding like what Logic used on that WRC car he rebuilt, I need some to help reflect the exhaust heat away and in some other areas. What do you guys recommend?
Hope you don't mind me stealing your pic, Logic.... ![]() This is an example. It doesnt have to be EXACTLY that, but that style of shielding. Both the mat (for inside, where the exhaust basically hits the bodyshell), and the tape for outside would be awesome. Is that just the normal 2in aluminized duct tape, or is that special? Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Tim Taylor Tim Taylor Elite Moderator Location: Oakland, CA Join Date: 02/02/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 622 Rally Car: Mazda 323 GTX |
I just used a spray on ceramic insulation on the inside cover of our LeMons car and it works well and is quite durable. We also exploded an engine on it and were able to just wipe it clean of oil with only some soapy water. The only downside I can see so far is that you have to buy their spray gun to shoot the stuff. It's literally like spraying soupy mud.
This is the retail version of their commercial coatings. You can buy it from all sorts of places on the internet. http://www.lizardskin.com/ |
SteveL Steve Leitch Ultra Moderator Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Join Date: 01/25/2009 Posts: 280 Rally Car: Can't decide which to use... |
There is also a cheap home made alternative...
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/alternative-lizard-skin-103610.html?highlight=home+made+lizard+skin SteveL This is the point in the killing spree when you really should turn the gun on yourself |
Jon Burke Jon Burke Infallible Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
i don't know what's on the tranny tunnel, but isn't that just aluminum tape?
That's what I have on my firewall around the turbo, and even taped to the corner of my top mount intercooler. had a fire last month at a rallyX (of all placeS) when one of the p-steering lines burst and had a nice little engine bay fire. Tape stayed on fine, just wiped it down. Its expensive, but I found a full roll online for like $50 somewhere. Pegasus racing has the nice gold wrapping stuff that looks like the inside of the space shuttle. Jon Burke - KI6LSW Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/ Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2010 11:55AM by Jon Burke. |
derek Derek Bottles Super Moderator Location: Lopez Island/ Seattle WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 853 Rally Car: Past: 323, RX2, GTI. Next up M3 ? |
Would it not be a better idea to shield the heat before it gets to the body of the car, ie on the outside rather then on the inside? Unless this is to keep the co-driver's body heat from warming up the gearbox and such?
Gold, Aluminum, silver etc are all good at transferring heat, so it needs some sort of insulator in there too, Kevlar under a hunk of sheet metal on the outside of the car would work well, or just glue Nomex to the underside of the tunnel. In the long run reality always wins. |
derek Derek Bottles Super Moderator Location: Lopez Island/ Seattle WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 853 Rally Car: Past: 323, RX2, GTI. Next up M3 ? |
here is some stuff...
http://www.amazon.com/Heatshield-HP-Armor-12-60/dp/B002UGV9WA Note again that the shiny side goes toward the heat not the other way around... In the long run reality always wins. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
derek Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Would it not be a better idea to shield the heat > before it gets to the body of the car, ie on the > outside rather then on the inside? Unless this is > to keep the co-driver's body heat from warming up > the gearbox and such? > > Gold, Aluminum, silver etc are all good at > transferring heat, so it needs some sort of > insulator in there too, Kevlar under a hunk of > sheet metal on the outside of the car would work > well, or just glue Nomex to the underside of the > tunnel. > > See me go at: > www.11tenths.com > In the long run Reality always wins. Oh, I completly agree. I'm just looking for that style. The shiny tape is reflective, but the mat I believe can go on either side. I'm MOSTLY interested in the reflective stuff, to go outside. (like you said, to reflect away heat ) Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Godlike Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
Jon Burke Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > i don't know what's on the tranny tunnel, but > isn't that just aluminum tape? > > That's what I have on my firewall around the > turbo, and even taped to the corner of my top > mount intercooler. > > had a fire last month at a rallyX (of all placeS) > when one of the p-steering lines burst and had a > nice little engine bay fire. Tape stayed on fine, > just wiped it down. > > Its expensive, but I found a full roll online for > like $50 somewhere. > > Pegasus racing has the nice gold wrapping stuff > that looks like the inside of the space shuttle. > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW > Blog: > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10 > > > > Edited 1 times. Last edit at Jan 25, 2010 by Jon > Burke. You just used regular al foil tape? there's nothing fancy about it? Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
alkun Albert Kun Mega Moderator Location: SF Ca. Join Date: 01/07/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,732 Rally Car: volvo 242 |
Check out the intake heat shielding on the car Smokey built. Clearly, lovingly sewn by his sweet gramdma. You have to scroll down the thumb nails on right.
http://www.canepacollection.com/detail-1967-chevrolet-smokey_yunick-nascar_chevelle-5117058.html Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2010 03:17PM by alkun. |
Jon Burke Jon Burke Infallible Moderator Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: 01/03/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,402 Rally Car: Subaru w/<1000 crashes |
Dazed_Driver Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Burke Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > i don't know what's on the tranny tunnel, > but > > isn't that just aluminum tape? > > > > That's what I have on my firewall around the > > turbo, and even taped to the corner of my > top > > mount intercooler. > > > > had a fire last month at a rallyX (of all > placeS) > > when one of the p-steering lines burst and > had a > > nice little engine bay fire. Tape stayed on > fine, > > just wiped it down. > > > > Its expensive, but I found a full roll online > for > > like $50 somewhere. > > > > Pegasus racing has the nice gold wrapping > stuff > > that looks like the inside of the space > shuttle. > > > > Jon Burke - KI6LSW > > Blog: > > 'Holy Shit!' @ 4:10 > > > > > > > > Edited 1 times. Last edit at Jan 25, 2010 by > Jon > > Burke. > > > You just used regular al foil tape? there's > nothing fancy about it? > > Feisty Peacock? > > define 'fancy'? this stuff: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-SpecialtyTapes/SpcltyTape/ProdInfo/Spec6/AlumFoil425/ I'd call $50 for 60 yards pretty fucking fancy. Jon Burke - KI6LSW Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/ |
heymagic Banned Junior Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
That there is some miracle stuff..."thermally conductive" and "heat shielding" all in one. Initially sounds like a contradiction but I think they mean it carries the heat away..somewhere..
I've seen it used to shield bumper covers from exhaust heat. I'd think that on the inside of the floor the heat would collect under it and just loosen the adhesive?? |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Mega Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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Doivi Clarkinen Banned Mega Moderator Location: the end of the universe Join Date: 02/12/2006 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,432 Rally Car: 1980 Opel Ascona B |
This is the stuff we use on race cars. Fire walls, trans tunnels, etc. It's pretty spendy stuff.
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tpc=HRP_Gold_Heat_Reflective_Racing_Film&form_prod_id=66,7_5325&action=product |
phlat65 Sean Medcroft Mega Moderator Location: Edmonds, Washington Join Date: 02/12/2009 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,802 Rally Car: Building a Merkur |
I have used some stuff I got at the motorcycle store on my street bike, the header I built is 1/4 inch from the plastic air box. 4 years and still works great. Pretty cheap, it was like $20, came in 2 1 foot square sheets, self adhesive backing.
I did the whole firewall and trans tunnel on my 76 Volvo with some cheap alluminum backed buytel (sp) stuff after i did the ford 2.3 turbo conversion, when towing our camper, it would cook my wife. after, it doesn't get much heating at all. that stuff has held up well, and it came in a 3 foot wide roll that was 10 feet long or something for $50. I used it on the outside. |
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