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In another thread we we're talking about Porsche engines being crap and Subaru engines being much better.
Now we're talking about Subaru engines are crap.. so Porsche engines must really suck, or is nothing up to Rally Anarchy standards?  Andrew M Onterrible 30ish |
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david amor Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > john vanlandingham Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > hudson Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > In another thread we we're talking > about > > Porsche > > > engines being crap and Subaru engines > being > > much > > > better. > > > > > > Now we're talking about Subaru engines > are > > crap.. > > > so Porsche engines must really suck, or > is > > nothing > > > up to Rally Anarchy standards? > > > > > > Subaru engines are fine for the intended > purposes: > > Yuppie granola wannabes driving leisurely to > the > > Esspresso stand prior to driving up the > mountain > > at a super annoyinmg pace holding up 20-40 > cars > > for hours on end. > > > > Everything is marginally sized, very little > margin > > of safety, lightweight, , strange design of > piston > > dish SQUARE DISHES!!!! WTF. skinniest main > > bearings I have ever seen in an automobile > > engine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew M > > > Onterrible > > > 30ish > > > > > > > > > > John Vanlandingham > > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > > > www.rallyrace.net/jvab > > CALL +1 206 431-9696 > > Remember! Pacific Standard Time > > is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. > > > All true. It takes alot of money and careful > assembly to get the motors even half reliable. > They need to be maintained religiously. The only > beauty with subaru's is that as a PACKAGE, and for > their intended puposes, tend to work quite well. > > "this is certainly not a game for flyweights or > ping-pong players-all arguments to the contrary" > -C.B. This is a pretty funny thread..Especially since the OP started a thread long ago asking what to use when swapping out the 1.8.  Part of the steep learning curve. There is a reason why "take out" 2.5s are cheap, they are all getting ready to shit the bed, unless freshly rebuilt. Don't bet on that knocking 2.5 lasting 10k on stage.
All 2.5 Normally aspirated Subaru engines are the worst of the lot of them. Regardless of SOHC, DOHC, PH 1 or 2, it doesn't really matter. They all see the same fate. Failed head gaskets that lead to over heating, and lower end (bearing failure) issues due to scoring. It doesn't take long to smoke the bearings when you're rolling along at highway speeds w/ no coolant in the car.The block, head gaskets, and bearings are all prone to failure..Very similar to the 3vze Toyota V6.Inherent design flaw with the cast iron block and aluminum heads.The prob with the 2.5 (ej25) is the small head gasket mating surface area Does that mean all Subaru engines suck.. Not even close. The majority of the other powerplants last well over 100k, usually 200k+ with routine service. This is true of even the EA81 and EA82 GL 1.8L powerplants. The 2.2 (Ej22) is the warhorse and the 1.8 (EJ18) is a close second only due to the lack of power vs. the 2.2. Those engines can last amazingly long getting the crap kicked out of them, low on oil, high revs, etc. Also non-interference, and about $250 for a good running pull-a-part engine. That's usually what a set of questionable 2.5 heads goes for.. Or build a hybrid w/ a 2.2 block and the DOHC heads. The newer turbo powerplants (EJ20, EJ255, EJ257) are actually more reliable than the NA versions when kept close to stock. B- Build the car, race the car, crash the car, fix the car..Repeat |
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