What are people using? and recommend?

I've been using Motul RBF600 for the last little while, but it's getting harder to find and more expensive

Also used the ATE Super Blue in the past.



Local bike shops are often the source for this stuff...They are stocking "Maxima" fluids now. Which looks decent 600 deg dry / 400 deg wet

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Chris

ATE Blue for a long time now, never had any issues with it. I bought two cans of it on sale a few yrs ago and still have half a can left.

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Jon Burke - KI6LSW
Blog: http://psgrallywrx.blogspot.com/

Chris, you really smoking your brakes?
What's your brake set up?

It seems to me the main thing is FRESH fluid, since it tends so drastically to pick up moisture in the air.
I read somewhere that it can gain 6% water per year so how much per how long, but that water boils at 100c and brings down the fluids boiling point, so fresh fresh.

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

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No. not smoking the brakes...

But i would rather use good fluid, instead of parts store junk.

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Chris

Do It Sidewayz Wrote:
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> No. not smoking the brakes...
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> But i would rather use good fluid, instead of
> parts store junk.

Well sure but say Castrol LMA (Low Moisture Activity) has worked well in my car and I've seen orange glowing rotors.
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> Chris

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Ain't nothin wrong with that blue stuff as far as I can tell.

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Jay Woodward
Snohomish, WA
'90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
Chronologically, 46...

I've used ATE Super Blue in my road racing cars and never had an issue. Good stuff!

ATE Super Blue here for years as well - no problems.
A lot of my club buddies does as well.

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Brgrds
Brian

Agree with John. Keep it fresh, and bleed when it gets hot.

ATE is good stuff, and it is cheap, readily available. What's not to like?

Jon Burke Wrote:
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I bought two cans of it on sale a few
> yrs ago and still have half a can left.

This is the problem with club racers. Toss it already. Brake fluid "spoils" quicker than milk. At this point that half can of fluid will work as good as water.

Brake fluid is one the most important elements of the brake system, so rather buy something cheaper a bleed once per race day.

Also the true boiling points are not what it says on the bottle so dont buy accordingly. We run dyno tests on all types of brake components, pads, discs, calipers, and fluid on a quarterly basis. And of all the "racing" fluids the Castrol SFR is the best hands down with the highest boiling points period. But once it reaches its limit and boils it just doesnt come back and recover like others will, albeit its boiling point is so high that you will most likely be having other problems before the fluid boils. These temps are reached with disc bulk temps of 1300F (with spikes of 2000+) and caliper temps of 450-500. Note that Piston seals start deteriorating at temps that are constantly of over 350F.

Another good and cheap fluid is what some have mentioned here the ATE (blue/gold), its a constant top 10 performer, also a excellent one normally in the top 5 is the Ford heavy duty synth (the metal can version, also available at the dealer). Ask for fluid for a ford focus) Tilton fluids are also very good with a higher vapor lock temps than SRF and they come in 250mm bottles which is perfect so that you always open a fresh bottle.

Others like Motul, Neo, Wilwood, Project Mu, Endless, Brembo, are just back markers and are ok for club racing.

Oooooohhhhh. Coooooollll. Data. Got charts?

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Jay Woodward
Snohomish, WA
'90 Mazdog Frankenprotege
Chronologically, 46...

That is way cool info!
Thanks a lot.

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Brgrds
Brian

Paul,

Truth be told i was just waiting for your response!

But instead of PM'ing, figured it would spark some discussion, and get info out there for the masses!

What are your thoughts on the Endless fluid? Seems less expensive than the Castrol SRF, but comparable?

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Chris

Chris, look up a couple of posts over your head^

He said "Others like Motul, Neo, Wilwood, Project Mu, Endless, Brembo, are just back markers and are ok for club racing. "


Of course being very literal minded, when he said OK for club racing, that means to me OK for some old fat geezers to drive around calmly never chirping a tire around some perfectly smooth , perfectly flat easy course with 7-9 turns and max 1 other guy in class...."road" racing.

I would not conclude he meant to include club level rally..

Every language but English makes a clear distinction--I swear, even Chinese..."Racing" is just shorthand for ROADRACING on a TRACK, and "Rally" is what we do.
Only North American children and only in the last 10-13 years do you see or hear the bizarre term "rallyracing"

So Paulinho being one of dem gawddam immigrants I reckon he means "racing" when he says "Racing"...

But maybe he's "gone native"??

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

John, you always crack me up with your analogies

Ok lets put it this way, those fluids are ok for club level competition. As for Endless, well their whole line up is junk really. But they do have good advertising saying that their fluid is used by Brawn F1, etc, etc...