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PRC steering quickener

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PRC steering quickener
January 17, 2011 12:01PM
http://www.racerswholesale.com/product.cfm?InvKey=45232

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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 18, 2011 06:29PM
Does it have a AL shaft or steel?
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 18, 2011 09:12PM
Hmmm that never occurred to me. It's supposedly a hair over 2lb, if that's any indication.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 18, 2011 09:40PM
The ones like this I have seen made by Pro-lite (they look identical) have steel shafts.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 19, 2011 07:39AM
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The ones like this I have seen made by Pro-lite (they look identical) have steel shafts.
Yeah thats what I have and it looks exactly the same.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 19, 2011 10:34AM
That's a private-label version of the original 'Coleman' style quickener (Pro-Lite). Either that or a knock-off. Speedway Motors, Smiley's, and AFCO all have their own version too. They just change the engraving and anodizing colors...

Coleman quickener

Speedway Quickener

AFCO

Smiley's
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 19, 2011 10:37AM
This style is a bit bigger/bulkier but it's on sale right now.

Billet quickener
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Re: PRC steering quickener
January 21, 2011 10:55AM
I have a Coleman 1.5:1 3 bolt that I will be using (still sorting the rest of the car before I mess with quickener).

http://www.performancebodies.com/Product-Detail.aspx?pid=906

Mine is actually blue body, but it has steel shaft sticking out. Steering wheel end is the long shaft with the splined end going into the original column.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 24, 2011 11:59AM
To those who have used them, how much additional steering effort do these quickeners require? I seem to see a lot of these for sale used.

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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 24, 2011 12:07PM
I still haven't got mine yet, too many other fires to put out. Power steering is going to happen at the same time.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 24, 2011 09:34PM
I had to remove my 2:1 quickener on the Audi 4k due to the additional steering effort. That said, I also added caster to the car - which by its self added significant steering effort.

If I want both, I'll have to change the power steering capabilities or go to a quick rack.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 24, 2011 10:15PM
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I had to remove my 2:1 quickener on the Audi 4k due to the additional steering effort. That said, I also added caster to the car - which by its self added significant steering effort.

If I want both, I'll have to change the power steering capabilities or go to a quick rack.

Vittorio muchachito, it's the VOLUME in the pump relief valve that gives the assistencia (not the pressure---everything seems to run around 75 bar or 1175psi or so).
Pressure is magic in fluids: same pressure on more area means more pounds or kilos, so seems bigger holes in the bypass part means more steering assist, TRY IT.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 25, 2011 03:55PM
ok - a little research and what I've found is:

"Hydraulic power is defined as flow times pressure. The hydraulic power supplied by a pump:

Power = (P x Q) ÷ 600

where power is in kilowatts [kW], P pressure in bars, and Q is the flow in liters per minute. For example, a pump delivers 180 lit/min and the pressure equals 250 bar, therefore the power of the pump is 75 kW."

This says that Power can be increased by *either* increasing pressure *or* increasing flow.

Based on your findings that most pumps produce an avg *constant* pressure of 75bar - then yes, increasing flow should increase power in KW.

Awright! There's hope...time to find a 4k pump I can molest. I also have to find out if there's a restrictor in the high pressure line. There are currently higher priority items to handle - this may be a June activity.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 25, 2011 07:04PM
Any real difference between the 4k/3b motors and the more common MK2 vw pump? i think just about all of the pumps on the two makes were the same around that time frame. might be nice to find a pump you can place where the AC compressor is/was and maybe a power steering cooler, you know, while your at it.
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Re: PRC steering quickener
April 26, 2011 12:08AM
Power steering cooler is in place (Volvo piece, guess from who?)...

3b PS pumps have a 3rd opening for the brake booster - could be an upgrade if the vacuum assist doesn't work - they're quite a lot longer - but I don't know if they create more Kw. Chance are they do as they come from a much heavier car.
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