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Aaron Luptak
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Re: My Honduh
March 01, 2011 12:33AM
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gkd
Dan,

-One small suggestion: possibly move the driver-side A-pillar support bar 3" down from the top junction so you will have a little more room to get in and out. If you ever install a drvr seat with "helmet wings" you will have issues with egress-ingress.
-Axles: I have noticed that the issues are mostly with 88-91 civics? I use factory rebuilt axles with no issues so far.

I wish I knew that you wanted a hillclimb Honda. In case someone wants it, I have a spotless one that could be sold: 89 CRX with NASA timetrial cage. Short gears, Torsen, B17A(with Type R cams, 11:1, motor is being built now), big front brakes, 15x8 and 15X7 wheels. Koni, poly bushings, sphericals, Quaife quick rack, custom front subframe with heim-jointed track rods. EVERY mechanical piece is either new/rebuilt or has 30 minutes of running on it. 1985 lbs.

George

care to share pics or more info on the track rods and the subframe?

my gut instinct is that the CV failures on the 88-91's may actually have to do with the amount of steering angle that can be achieved - no numbers to back it up yet, though.

Certainly isn't horsepower, though - I've broken CVs in both civics i've had, w/ ~60 and ~100 hp.
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Re: My Honduh
March 01, 2011 02:10AM
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gkd
Dan,

-One small suggestion: possibly move the driver-side A-pillar support bar 3" down from the top junction so you will have a little more room to get in and out. If you ever install a drvr seat with "helmet wings" you will have issues with egress-ingress.
-Axles: I have noticed that the issues are mostly with 88-91 civics? I use factory rebuilt axles with no issues so far.

I wish I knew that you wanted a hillclimb Honda. In case someone wants it, I have a spotless one that could be sold: 89 CRX with NASA timetrial cage. Short gears, Torsen, B17A(with Type R cams, 11:1, motor is being built now), big front brakes, 15x8 and 15X7 wheels. Koni, poly bushings, sphericals, Quaife quick rack, custom front subframe with heim-jointed track rods. EVERY mechanical piece is either new/rebuilt or has 30 minutes of running on it. 1985 lbs.

George

I wish I knew you had that and were selling it. PM me price and some pictures I may still be interested. Also I was planning on running 15x8 wheels which ones do you have and what offset?
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Re: My Honduh
March 01, 2011 09:40AM
I like the cage, is this some of the whizbang work? I'll have to get on facebook to contact them when I get home.
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Re: My Honduh
March 01, 2011 11:21AM
Whizbang is the name of our team. The guys doing the cage go by Blklist Motorsports. It's just a couple guys in a small shop. I'll pm you their number.

Also Gene they measured the roof bars and said it's right at 4 inches from the A pillar bar.



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Re: My Honduh
March 02, 2011 01:46PM
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-Axles: I have noticed that the issues are mostly with 88-91 civics? I use factory rebuilt axles with no issues so far.

Same issue on 94-2000 Integras... we broke lots with our Integra. If anything we're having less issues with the Civic, but that could be the 50+ HP drop.
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Re: My Honduh
March 02, 2011 03:22PM
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Same issue on 94-2000 Integras... we broke lots with our Integra. If anything we're having less issues with the Civic, but that could be the 50+ HP drop.
What exactly was it that was braking? The outter CV or the inner cup? The only issue I ever had on my old rsx was one time the inner cup had a crack in it after a rally, that was it, it caused a vibration but didnt come appart. Never had anymore issues after that. But those were with the 36mm axle/hub combo so might be stronger.
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Re: My Honduh
March 06, 2011 02:13AM
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Hey, add a tube from the base of main hoop up to the backstays where they hit the upper shock mounts. Not required by the rules but required by logic.

I talked to them yesterday and these bars are being added along with the harness bars. They also started on the gussets and we measured the roof bars right at 4 inches so it's just a hair over 100 mm but if I read the NASA rule book right it says 4 inches.
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Re: My Honduh
March 07, 2011 08:51AM
Great meeting you last week. I'm excited to get the cage going. Good luck with your deployment, and thanks for serving. Make sure to keep in touch.
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Re: My Honduh
March 07, 2011 07:37PM
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What exactly was it that was braking? The outter CV or the inner cup? The only issue I ever had on my old rsx was one time the inner cup had a crack in it after a rally, that was it, it caused a vibration but didnt come appart. Never had anymore issues after that. But those were with the 36mm axle/hub combo so might be stronger.

Outer CV always. Often as not exploded, sometimes just cracked/split enough to not work. 32mm nut, we've upgraded to the 36mm nut size, pretty big difference in the CV joint itself. We'll see.
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Re: My Honduh
March 22, 2011 11:04AM
this cdar should be coming to the shop to get its new heart soon
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Re: My Honduh
June 20, 2011 10:49PM
Well the cage got "finished" last week. Unfortunately the asshats that did it pretty much totaled the car. The left A pillar bar had a bend in it that went towards the center of the car, they welded over tar, burned through when welding the floor plates, had a LOT of holes in the welds, the gussets looked terrible, instead of re-roofing the car like they were supposed to they welded a plate in the hole which turned out like crap. More stuff. I was told it would be better to just find a new shell. Soooooooooooooo I need a new shell. looking for an EG this time. Seems like more options with the newer shell. I'm on the hunt for one now. Just sucks dealing with this crap in Afghan. If anyone knows of an EG hatch preferably near a cage builder let me know. The closer to Idaho the better.
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Re: My Honduh
June 20, 2011 10:54PM
Dude that sucks! are you getting compensated for your loss? post the name of the shop so others can avoid them.
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Re: My Honduh
June 20, 2011 11:08PM
They intend to pay me back yes. Who knows though it took them 5 months to get the car "finished" so I don't know. After this fiasco they decided to stop doing business. I have already told AJ who is also in the Boise area. I decided the next cage will be done by one of the many cage builders that is a part of the rally community. Not trusting many people any more.



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Re: My Honduh
June 20, 2011 11:33PM
Anyone want to lowball the hell out of this person then tow it maybe even drive it to get the cage done? http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2442646499.html
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Re: My Honduh
June 20, 2011 11:58PM
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shiza
Well the cage got "finished" last week. Unfortunately the asshats that did it pretty much totaled the car. The left A pillar bar had a bend in it that went towards the center of the car, they welded over tar, burned through when welding the floor plates, had a LOT of holes in the welds, the gussets looked terrible, instead of re-roofing the car like they were supposed to they welded a plate in the hole which turned out like crap. More stuff. I was told it would be better to just find a new shell. Soooooooooooooo I need a new shell. looking for an EG this time. Seems like more options with the newer shell. I'm on the hunt for one now. Just sucks dealing with this crap in Afghan. If anyone knows of an EG hatch preferably near a cage builder let me know. The closer to Idaho the better.

Holy shit, more catastrophes..first the rust-stang, $1000 down the drain and then this.

Man....Is that the name of the shop in the post immediately above this one I've quoted?

Find out what small claims action you can do. Depending on the limits, maybe you can do 2 separate actions: refund of money for the "work"
and a separate one for damage to the car...

Shit happens but but!



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