Brake compounds?

Looking on the Porterfield site, and unsure what compound to use.
I want more initial bite from my front brakes, and the pad should work well cool since I am not a LFB'er. I currently have the -10 willwood compound, which is their least expensive pad.

Until recently, I've been very happy with the R4s.

Now that I'm starting to be more aggressive w/ late braking, I will probably move to the R4.

The R4 should work pretty good for you. They have a killer bite but don't like the heavy LFB.

We used them quite a bit early on but started to get inconsistency, looking back I am unsure if it was bedding issues, cheap rotors, the drivers getting faster or the pads.

Essex parts is stocking the Carbone Lorriane pads and the RC8 compound is incredible. Massive bite, cold or glowing red hot. I'd think they would have your shape in stock.

I am non lfb and I have had good performance with the R4s. More grip than the stock pads I was running before. I did have some fade issues on really long stages or some heavy braking stages like at Rally TN. But nothing like what I saw with the stock pads. They lasted a long time, I think I got 6 or 7 rallies out of them.

I finally wore them out in Mexico, but those stages are much much tighter than anything we run on the east coast

Those RC8's are $434 a set... Not quite there yet.

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Carbone Lorriane pads and the RC8 compound is incredible. Massive bite, cold or glowing red hot..

Carbone Lorraine's are sintered pads, they dont take too much abuse like a carbon metalic based pad. And because they're sintered metal once you fade them and hurt them bad they just wont come back to life after it cools down. It becomes like vulcanic rock and your brakes just wont stop well anymore.

Last time I bought a similar size is was $170.00. I may be able to get you a deal, I've been using them since 2006 and hooked up essex with CL when they all of a sudden wanted me to buy $50k's worth to keep the price.

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Last time I bought a similar size is was $170.00. I may be able to get you a deal, I've been using them since 2006 and hooked up essex with CL when they all of a sudden wanted me to buy $50k's worth to keep the price.

You hooked up essex with CL? wow thats pretty cool, wonder what Ken Gordon would have to say about that.

Sean,

Run what the faster guys are running. Easy enough.

VT Car is running PFC 01 pads
Rocket Rally is running PFC 07 pads
Can Jam runs PFC 07 pads
Ramana, Hanson, Laughlin, PFC 01 pads
Joseph Burke both 01's and 07's
and many others the same

Armindo Araujo -> Mini WRC - PFC 07 pads

Retail on your pads is only 190 bucks.

+1 on the R4, but since I lfb I run R4E. I don't really notice any cold braking issues even with that compound, and they are atomic fade proof which is worth far more to me that dern near anything else, and bonus, they last ferever...



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Last time I bought a similar size is was $170.00. I may be able to get you a deal, I've been using them since 2006 and hooked up essex with CL when they all of a sudden wanted me to buy $50k's worth to keep the price.

You hooked up essex with CL? wow thats pretty cool, wonder what Ken Gordon would have to say about that.

sheesh, don't know Ken, but in 2007 or so the guy in France(Aouicha Bouzan since we're name dropping asked me if I could buy WHD amount...like $50k whew no possible way, so I explained that perhaps Essex on the east coast, Brits, west coast and MSI Indy for mid west would be the best bets for a warehouse type deal. A year later when I went to buy a years worth Aouica explained they had spoke with everyone I forwarded to them and settled on Essex.

Never had a problem with them, and even saw them being used on m-sport and citroen wrc cars in mexico. Never used the PF stuff but as things evolve in motorsport I would'ne be suprised if they are flavor of the month and I know the RR guys love them.

Sean, I'm sure you'll be fine with the R4's, good brakes are one thing worth spending good money on.



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as things evolve in motorsport I would'ne be suprised if they are flavor of the month

I like that. I am always entertained at the trendiness that spreads in rally. Volkswagens, tires, suspension, now pads too...

R4's in front, R4-S's in back on my Golf. I do that only because I don't have a balance adjuster and that combination results in a workable balance for me. Otherwise I'd probably just run R4's all the time and tweak the balance manually.

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Last time I bought a similar size is was $170.00. I may be able to get you a deal, I've been using them since 2006 and hooked up essex with CL when they all of a sudden wanted me to buy $50k's worth to keep the price.

You hooked up essex with CL? wow thats pretty cool, wonder what Ken Gordon would have to say about that.

sheesh, don't know Ken, but in 2007 or so the guy in France(Aouicha Bouzan since we're name dropping asked me if I could buy WHD amount...like $50k whew no possible way, so I explained that perhaps Essex on the east coast, Brits, west coast and MSI Indy for mid west would be the best bets for a warehouse type deal. A year later when I went to buy a years worth Aouica explained they had spoke with everyone I forwarded to them and settled on Essex.

Never had a problem with them, and even saw them being used on m-sport and citroen wrc cars in mexico. Never used the PF stuff but as things evolve in motorsport I would'ne be suprised if they are flavor of the month and I know the RR guys love them.

Sean, I'm sure you'll be fine with the R4's, good brakes are one thing worth spending good money on.

Its not name dropping when you know these people personally and work fairly close in the same fields. Ken is the owner of Essex. And Brits is also part of the same company but does the sportscar stuff and Essex does mostly NASCAR.

Now as far as M-sport being on CL, no way. They are under contract with Endless. And Citroen gets CL as sponsorship.

Endless pads are actually pretty good, but with manufacturing in China, and Japan, you never know what you get and the bad consistency ruins it. Even worse now because the Japan plant got trashed so all they're making is the China stuff. Good luck with it.

As for the RR guys loving CL pads, you probably mean the trackday or time attack evo's and corvettes that Jeff from essex has been giving stuff to in order to spread the word? When you see CL in ALMS or IRL, or Grand AM or even NASCAR, then you know its good stuff. Not the forums hype because some shops got a deal on a set of pads in oder to post a review on it.


Want some other pad options that are really good and up and coming in the industry. Cobalt, those guys are coming up with good friction materials. Very easy on the disc and with excellent bite and release.

LOL

I was refering to performace friction and RR guys loving them.

Endless, Ramana used them when he ran our car and liked them, but got them for free.

I have no idea who what why when about "deals" wrc teams have these days or back when ever, but 06,07 I saw CL pads, and stacks of them being put directly onto the focus and c4 wrc cars.