For fwd don't bother with another transmission just convert the awd box to run fwd only.

There's a guy making toyota W-something bell housings for subies if you want to go rwd.

have a pp6 in our subie its good depending what configuration you are running and is good for getting the open loop mix right and retarding for the boost. I actually made a piggyback prom like many of the svx guys run that uses the spare prom port on the subie odb1 boards. going to run it at NEFR. this will change timing and fuel.

also pict of subie 4.44

Can always run NASA/CARS events. But 2.2 will get you on more local rallys for no price. You won't have a monster motor, but you will learn conservation of momentum. Once you get good speed in the 2.2, when you go to the turbo (or build up with a 2.5 block), you'll be ready for it.

thre is a local fellow with a 2002 wagon converted to rear wheel drive. Basically just welded the center diff, ditched the front axles and pow! Only issues is he did need to use the STI transmission, an imported 5 speed, which has lasted a while. The glassmission from the factory didn't take too kindly...

I also believe he is running the R180. Supposedly, the R200 can fit as well without too much profanity, but im not a nissian differential guy.

Right now the only close NASA event to me (within 6 hours) is Rally TN. Three of the four events near me that I want to do are RA, so focusing on those set of rules. I've co-driven for several cars to learn that power means nothing without control, so focusing on just getting in rallies under the current rules, and learning to drive. No need for big power, big dollar NA builds.

Got to play with the car yesterday on some of the roads behind where I work, long sweeping corners and tight 90's. The car is setup very nicely, left foot brakes wonderfully, rotates very predictably and rather easy to keep under control (granted, wasn't going crazy). I think I am still leaning towards getting an NA engine in there to keep it AWD. Though will have to discuss the prospect of going RWD with some people. A friend of mine in St. Louis is a drifter, who has done a RWD conversion on his WRX who I am sure would be able to help him out.

Here are some pics of it.

Shortly after I picked it up, before starting the nearly 300 mile drive back home.


Parked next to my 2002 WRX with a JDM STI engine in it.... and a blown up RA gearbox, awaiting a stock gearbox to put back in, and sell the car to get monies for the real race car.

I cannot believe you can't lobby and get an exemption for run the Leggy Turbo as is.

In stock form, they really are pretty closely matched to a 2.5rs, which can be run without problems. They make about the same power, but the RS has atleast 300 lbs on the Legacy. Rs's also have significantly better gearboxs with 4.11 gears.

Well, I haven't even considered about lobbying. Any suggestions on how I should do something like that? Who I should talk to? Can't hurt to ask I suppose.

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I cannot believe you can't lobby and get an exemption for run the Leggy Turbo as is.

In stock form, they really are pretty closely matched to a 2.5rs, which can be run without problems. They make about the same power, but the RS has atleast 300 lbs on the Legacy. Rs's also have significantly better gearboxs with 4.11 gears.

Except this car is not stock.

You can call RA and ask, but I'm sure they'll say no to a new driver running a 2.2 Turbo AWD that's probably right at minimum weight.

Although if you wanted to do a first event without any changes, I'd suggest heading out to West Virginia.

Just write a nice simple e-mail to the guys at RA. Be honest about your experience, but list everything. Mountain bike racing, dirt bikes ect. If you have done autocross, get a letter of recommendation on how smooth and how quickly you improved. I received my G5 exemption based on my Motorcycle enduro racing, and a nice letter from the head of our local drift program.

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I cannot believe you can't lobby and get an exemption for run the Leggy Turbo as is.

In stock form, they really are pretty closely matched to a 2.5rs, which can be run without problems. They make about the same power, but the RS has atleast 300 lbs on the Legacy. Rs's also have significantly better gearboxs with 4.11 gears.

Except this car is not stock.

You can call RA and ask, but I'm sure they'll say no to a new driver running a 2.2 Turbo AWD that's probably right at minimum weight.

Although if you wanted to do a first event without any changes, I'd suggest heading out to West Virginia.

This car feels bone stock mostly. Slow as balls (bout as fast as an RS). The interior is in shit shape, nothing was ever gutted or anything. Can tell it was prepared to be the bare minimum needed to rally.

I was given "most improved driver" in our local Rallycross series... Hmm, might help, haha. I'll try to draft up something soon to send to them. I'd rather not have to worry about a new engine/driveline if I can.

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I cannot believe you can't lobby and get an exemption for run the Leggy Turbo as is.

In stock form, they really are pretty closely matched to a 2.5rs, which can be run without problems. They make about the same power, but the RS has atleast 300 lbs on the Legacy. Rs's also have significantly better gearboxs with 4.11 gears.

Except this car is not stock.

You can call RA and ask, but I'm sure they'll say no to a new driver running a 2.2 Turbo AWD that's probably right at minimum weight.

Although if you wanted to do a first event without any changes, I'd suggest heading out to West Virginia.

This car feels bone stock mostly. Slow as balls (bout as fast as an RS). The interior is in shit shape, nothing was ever gutted or anything. Can tell it was prepared to be the bare minimum needed to rally.

I was given "most improved driver" in our local Rallycross series... Hmm, might help, haha. I'll try to draft up something soon to send to them. I'd rather not have to worry about a new engine/driveline if I can.

i believe the car was built to run in PGT. at the time almost all of the interior was needed for that class.

Would be pretty easy to make that car stock again.

Just ditch the manual boost controller, and install a stock airbox (even tho it makes no difference).


I know RA has their rules, but these Leggy Turbos are probably one of the best starter cars there is.

Having driven both 2.5rs's, and Legacy Turbos, they are both really close. heck i've even campaigned what would have been a pretty quick "open light" car (2.5 motor, with cams, and other work, and 4.44 jdm gearbox).

IMHO, it would be pretty bad on RA's part to not let someone run with the Stock Leggy turbo motor, but allow and recommend to them to put in what could be a "hot" open light motor, which could potentially be faster. Or better still let them run the stock motor, but yank 2 driveshafts and run in 2wd.

Forget RWD with a Subaru. Ask Randy Zimmer how well that held up in rally.

The easiest and cheapest thing would be to put a gutted turbo on and run it like a dog in Open Light to get some coefficients if you can't run it as sits.
I think in the SCCA days, codrivers gained coefficients as well. I think it was 50% of the event coefficients.
Leave the car stock, enter PGT, which is still a regional class, and go get some coefficients.
Or we could enter it with me as the driver and you codriving. After the first stage, you can take over driving duties as I'll start feeling ill. Boom. Coefficients! I promise not to wreck it.

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Forget RWD with a Subaru. Ask Randy Zimmer how well that held up in rally.

The easiest and cheapest thing would be to put a gutted turbo on and run it like a dog in Open Light to get some coefficients if you can't run it as sits.
I think in the SCCA days, codrivers gained coefficients as well. I think it was 50% of the event coefficients.
Leave the car stock, enter PGT, which is still a regional class, and go get some coefficients.
Or we could enter it with me as the driver and you codriving. After the first stage, you can take over driving duties as I'll start feeling ill. Boom. Coefficients! I promise not to wreck it.

would you even need to use a gutted turbo? what about a bypass pipe?

i like the way you think grant! that last sentence NEVER ends badly.

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Well, I haven't even considered about lobbying. Any suggestions on how I should do something like that? Who I should talk to? Can't hurt to ask I suppose.

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Oh you can tell them you are 15 year Ex-spurt at 1/32 slot car racing and won everything at your local mall slot car track! send them this piccie!


And tell them this was your winning car;



And you promise them you'll paint your le-gassy blue!

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Peter Olenick, a professional skier sponsored by Monster bought an Open class Subaru. He did a bypass to run the car in Open Light at Rally Colorado. It now is pretty much just being used to tear around the mountains as he hasn't come back. Point being, he's an action sports star and wasn't allowed to start in Open class. He also had no previous driving experience. It was also much higher spec than a PGT Legacy Turbo that has maybe 180 hp at the crank.