Clevite Rod bearing CB-1426 P

The circumference of the bearing is way large. but other than length seems to fit just fine Did I get the wrong bearing in the right box?

When inserting the bearing into the rod, If I line up one end the other sticks out about an 1/8". Both top and bottom.

Google shows it's the right part number, but could they really have screwed up 5 different bearings? What am I doing wrong here?

Check everything, check here cause formatting sucks:
http://www.aclus.com/content/ACL07%281%29.pdf
9 ENGINE VIN CYL Bore x Stroke TORQUE SETTINGS
2226cc (2.2) (MC) Turbo C L5 81mm x 86.4mm
2226cc (2.2) (MC) Turbo D L5 81mm x 86.4mm
2226cc (2.2) (MC) Turbo E L5 81mm x 86.4mm
Connecting Rod 22 ft.lbs/30 Nm + 90 deg.
Main Bearing 47 ft.lbs/64 Nm
Rod
5B1636
Std. .25 .50 .75 1.0
F780 10 1636
IH
rod journal OD 45.949/1.8090
45.969/1.8098

ROD ID
49.000/1.9291
49.017/1.9298
1.506/0.0593 .019/.0007
.082/.0032
19.00/0.748 length
Main
6M1604 1-6
Std. .25 .50 .75
F780 12 1604
U/L
57.958/2.2818
57.978/2.2826
63.000/2.4803
63.019/2.4811
2.502/0.0985 .022/.0009
.087/.0034
18.50/0.728
Thrust
2T1644
Std.
F817 4 1644T
U/L
59.500/2.3425
(ID)
73.200/2.8819
(OD)
1.98/0.078
Note : Set includes four pieces. Required with 5M1604 main set


Do you have the right rods?

Look at this other thing:
Rod
PN 5B1606A
Std. .25 .50 .75 1.0
F810 10 1606A
IH
JOURNAL OD
47.758/1.8802
47.778/1.8810

Rod ID
50.600/1.9921
50.619/1.9929
1.405/0.0553 .012/.0005
.077/.0030
19.00/0.748

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Thanks John, I'll take some measurements tonight.

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aj_johnson
Clevite Rod bearing CB-1426 P

The circumference of the bearing is way large. but other than length seems to fit just fine Did I get the wrong bearing in the right box?

When inserting the bearing into the rod, If I line up one end the other sticks out about an 1/8". Both top and bottom.

Google shows it's the right part number, but could they really have screwed up 5 different bearings? What am I doing wrong here?

To answer your questions in order:
1. Very possible, happens daily in the auto business.
2. Yes, see 1 ^^ Misboxed, renumbered, cataloged incorrectly, made wrong etc.
3. Working on an Audi

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heymagic

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aj_johnson
Clevite Rod bearing CB-1426 P

The circumference of the bearing is way large. but other than length seems to fit just fine Did I get the wrong bearing in the right box?

When inserting the bearing into the rod, If I line up one end the other sticks out about an 1/8". Both top and bottom.

Google shows it's the right part number, but could they really have screwed up 5 different bearings? What am I doing wrong here?

To answer your questions in order:
1. Very possible, happens daily in the auto business.
2. Yes, see 1 ^^ Misboxed, renumbered, cataloged incorrectly, made wrong etc.
3. Working on an Audi

Teeee heee!

Oh yeah, SAVE THE BOX. look at the bearing, the rod and the journal, not "on-line", except to refer to ACL or even better---cause it has cross references right on the "block of info" is the Israeli "King Bearings"

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John Vanlandingham
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heymagic

3. Working on an Audi

If I had a nickel for every time I said "I should just go back to go karts".....

rod ID = Spot on at 49.0
Bearing OD measured at 50.27

Part number is correct. WTF?

So here is yesterdays lowdown on auto parts....

1985 big block Chevy plug wires, ordered for HEI cap and 90* ends on the plugs for headers. Catalog is wrong, wires came for points dist cap. Summit Racing

2003 Pasat, frt wheel bearing and hub, both wrong. Bearing plain wrong, hub mis-boxed. AutoZone

1983 F-150 radiator and hoses. Wrong lower hose. Auto Plus

There was one more but I can't remember what it was tonite....2 man shop, 2 cars downed in service bays overnite, one pushed outside. Any idea how much this costs me yearly in lost production?? It's ridiculous. Happens everywhere. Independant stores, chain stores, dealerships no difference all have massive screw ups.

Shirley there is a better way.

Well, does anyone have a reccomended bearing supplier. I purchased these a month or two ago and can't find the receipt anywhere.

Edit, Perhaps a better question, is John do you reccomend the company above or did the just happen to have a handy dandy size guide.

BTW the response from the audi forum: "use OEM bearings"
Shoulda guessed that one.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2011 09:02AM by aj_johnson.

OK only works with an obscure thing called "Intra-sNet Exploder":
http://www.king-bearings.com/cat/panel/pan29.htm

Engine Years CC Bore X Stroke Cyl Models 
1900    1980- 1920 cc 79.50X 77.40 5 cyl Audi 80 
2000   
HP,KP,JS,NM - PS,RT,SL -  1980- 1993 cc 81.00X 77.40 5 cyl Audi 80/90/100 
2150   
JY,KG -  1983-88 2144 cc 81.00X 83.20 5 cyl Audi 100/200 Turbo 
2200   
A,H,J series - K,M,P,R series -  1978- 2200 cc 81.00X 86.40 5 cyl Audi 80/90/100/200/4000/5000, Audi RS2/S2/S4/S6 
2300   
AAR/HX/MC/NF/NG-1986-96  1986-96 2300 cc 82.50X 86.40 5 cyl Audi 80/90/100, Audi 80/90/100, Quatro, Avant 


King Set No   
 Part No
 Qty
 Position
 Crankshaft
Diameter
 Housing
Diameter
 Bearing
Length
 Max Wall Thickness
 
CR 501AM 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0/1.5
ACL:5B1636 CLE:CB-1017AL(5) FMO:5-68095CP GLA:B5011SA GLY:71-3084/5 K.S:87 455 600 VAN:VPR91947
 C 411

 5 Pairs
   ROD JOURNAL 1.8086/ 1.8094
45.938/ 45.959
 1.9291/ 1.9297
 ROD ID 48.999/ 49.014
 0.7480
19.00
 0.0593
1.506


 
CR 502CP 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0
1984- Without oil holes
CLE:CB-1178P(5) GLA:B5018LB GLY:71-3566/5 K.S:87 413 600 VAN:VPR92291
 C 437

 5 Pairs
  
 1.8802/ 1.8810
47.757/ 47.777
 1.9921/ 1.9929
rod ID 50.599/ 50.620
 0.7480
19.00
 0.0554
1.407

 
CR 505AM 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0
1986- With 1.5mm oil hole.
CLE:CB-1162/1426P(5) FMO:5-4465P GLA:B5010LB/B5015LB GLY:71-3694/5 K.S:77 206 600 VAN:VPR92525
 C4104

 5 Pairs
  
 1.8802/ 1.8810
47.757/ 47.777
 1.9921/ 1.9929
50.599/ 50.620
 0.7480
19.00
 0.0553
1.405

 
CR 513CP 
For cracking con. rod
GLY:71-3929/5
 C4250U
C4250L
 5 Pairs
  
 1.8802/ 1.8810
47.757/ 47.777
 1.9921/ 1.9926
50.599/ 50.612
 0.7480
19.00
 0.0554
1.407

 
CR 516CP 
Under Development
For S2/S4/S6/RS2 162/169/232 kW (220/230/315 PS) Upper half -sputter replacement.
GLY:71-3732/5
 C 516*

 5 Pairs
  
 1.8802/ 1.8810
47.757/ 47.777
 1.9921/ 1.9926
50.599/ 50.612
 0.7480
19.00
 0.0549
1.394

 
MB 601AM 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0
With flange bearing. Flange length: STD - 24.94mm 0.25,0.5,0.75,1.0 - 25.04mm (Fl oversize 0.1mm) 
ACL:6M1605 CLE:MS-1434AL FMO:6656M GLA:M6046SA GLY:H 941/6 K.S:87 461 600 OEM:035.198.451 VAN:VPM91929 
 M 601U
M 601L

F 601U
F 601L
 5 Pairs


1 Pair
 1-2-4-5-6 


3 

 2.2818/ 2.2826
57.958/ 57.978

2.2818/ 2.2826
57.958/ 57.978
 2.4803/ 2.4810
63.000/ 63.017

2.4803/ 2.4810
63.000/ 63.017
 0.7283
18.50

0.9815
24.93
 0.0985
2.502

0.0985
2.502

 
MB 605AM 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0
Without flange bearing.
CLE:MS-1489P GLA:M6056LB GLY:H 981/6 K.S:87 454 600 VAN:VPM92292
 M 601U
M 601L
 6 Pairs
 1-6 

 2.2818/ 2.2826
57.958/ 57.978
 2.4803/ 2.4810
63.000/ 63.017
 0.7283
18.50
 0.0985
2.502

 
TW2009AM 
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0
FMO:68156BF GLY:A 124/4 K.S:78 639 600 VAN:VPW95170 
 W2009D
W2009E
 2 Pairs
  
 0.0000/ 2.5000
0.000/ 63.500
 0.0000/ 3.0394
0.000/ 77.201
 0.0000
0.00
 0.0780
1.981

There's the Clevite numbers, and all the info..... hope this helps.
I'd figure what rod journal size, double check the rods are what thety're spossed to be, find the Clevite number then Google "Shopping" search it.

You also have the Glacier and Glyco numbers and can look on the old rod bearing which of course you didn't dare throw away.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2011 03:55PM by john vanlandingham.

HMMM after further inspection, I have an engine with the code 054 103 021
Not the traditional 034 engine code.
Serves me right for not looking.

After googleing for a bit, I could only find one other instance of this code and the response the poster got was it's incorrect. HMMMMM what to do. I've found appropriate bearings - order them and run em?

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aj_johnson
HMMM after further inspection, I have an engine with the code 054 103 021
Not the traditional 034 engine code.
Serves me right for not looking.

After googleing for a bit, I could only find one other instance of this code and the response the poster got was it's incorrect. HMMMMM what to do. I've found appropriate bearings - order them and run em?

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!!!!???
help us help you and answer the questions: you have the old bearings?
Journal diam?
Rod ID? (i know i already asked)(go along)

bore?
stroke?

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John Vanlandingham
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81 bore 86.4 stroke

Crank diam ~45.39
rod diam ~48.98

old bearing
1.49 thick
roughly 49 in diam


These are shit calipers btw I wouldn't count on the measurements for anything other than rough guesses

Diesel fitter-

CR 501AM
STD/.25/.5/.75/1.0/1.5
ACL:5B1636 CLE:CB-1017AL(5) FMO:5-68095CP GLA:B5011SA GLY:71-3084/5 K.S:87 455 600 VAN:VPR91947
C 411

5 Pairs
ROD JOURNAL 1.8086/ 1.8094
45.938/ 45.959
1.9291/ 1.9297
ROD ID 48.999/ 49.014
0.7480
19.00
0.0593
1.506



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2011 11:50PM by aj_johnson.

Sounds like:
1981 AUDI 5000 TURBO 2.2L 2144cc L5 FI Turbo (C) [WK] SOHC : Engine : Connecting Rod Bearing Wiki Price
CLEVITE / PERFECT CIRCLE Part # CB1017P More Information About this Part TriMetalâ„¢; Steel Backed Bearings With An Intermediate Layer of Copper-Lead Alloy and An Electro-Plated Lead-Base Overlay
Material: TM-77

Part Image
Choose Size:
$7.78 each
Add to

RockAuto

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John Vanlandingham
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I checked ETKA - and your part number doesn't show up. The MC engines should be in the 034 100 family of part numbers.

On the AAN motor the bearings were flush with connecting rod mating surfaces.

You can also try EFI Express (are you east or west coast?) - but Rock Auto ought to do the trick just fine...

I've got the following part numbers for connecting rods on the MC1:
056 105 701
056 105 707 (0.25 u.s.)
056 105 713 (0.5 u.s.)
056 105 719 (0.75 u.s.)