john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
well you're the hard type of customer to make happy... The "Green Meanie Söspendös" are good and can be tailored to exactly what you want, they are expensive.. I'm faced with the same quandry with road car Xratties and Volvos: there's nothing worth a damn between cheep cheep KYB and my stuff.. The OE type Bilsteins for both those are valved so soft that you quite limited what spring you can use before it overpowers the damper/insert.. Of course that's presuming one gives a shit about suspension that works good cause its a constant battle and a continual sadness to see poor bastids like I just saw today on Merkursprout who was the 6th person who used the exact phrase "I hate driving my car now". He listened to deluded people, bought rear springs more than 2 1/2 times stiffer than original in the rear, and short 8" springs in the front....insta-coil-bind... So I can do you stuff that not only make the car handle like never before, but is still reasonably comfy on normal speeds on normal roads.....and corner enough to start popping the spotwelds in the subframes front and rear... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
mekilljoydammit Mod Moderator Join Date: 09/22/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 336 Rally Car: No rally car yet |
Actually, funny anecdote, John. Poking around and found our RX-7 setup book; done by a former vehicle dynamics engineer at GM who actually plugged shit into calculators, tried the shit to see what works and to evolve the models, and in the process was basically behind the design on all the front running 1st gen RX-7 roadrace cars in the country... copy we found was revision 25 and that was from '03. Spring rates he was reccomending for roadrace cars on prepared race tracks, with goddamn slicks putting 9" of rubber on the ground, generating something like 1.5g lateral grip? Around 450 front, 275 rear.
Why everyone gets so obsessed with astronomically high spring rates... |
fliz Chad Eixenberger Godlike Moderator Location: Grafton, WI Join Date: 02/01/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 484 Rally Car: 1988 VW Golf #687 |
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MeCalledEvan Evan Horner Super Moderator Location: Columbus OH Join Date: 01/03/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 109 Rally Car: 1983 Mazda RX7 GSL |
You wouldn't happen to have these in an electronic format would you? I would like a "looksee" if that's okeeday. "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know and have so much more to learn." - Claude Rouelle, Optimum G lecture June, 2011 |
mekilljoydammit Mod Moderator Join Date: 09/22/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 336 Rally Car: No rally car yet |
I'd actually have to have a think on that. On the one hand, it went for monies (not gigabucks, but like $95) until fairly recently, and I don't want to take cash out of the guy's wallet when he's been genuinely helpful, and kindly asked at the time of writing to not spread it around... but on the other hand he's getting out of the business. Not trying to be a dick or anything, etc, just slightly odd situation for me to just say yes.
http://www.gforceengineering.net/ is the guy's site. Maybe drop him a line if you're that interested. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Goood. God. That boy wants a lot for his stuff... What do those Koni double adjustable inserts cost? Just the inserts? $650 for speherical bearing top mounts? How do I do 'em better for $200? $350 for carving up old cast iron flywheels... I've been packing NEW STEEL ones that went for $300 Did 10 and sold out in under 2 days so did 25 more.. Guess its better to goes out of business. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
mekilljoydammit Mod Moderator Join Date: 09/22/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 336 Rally Car: No rally car yet |
The RX-7 shit anyway, the struts are actually a wet housing conversion not just DA inserts; no idea on the Fiat stuff, but the price he has listed is about what Truechoice or the like charges to do the conversion. Looking at the Fiat stuff a bit, inserts are $300-350ish apiece... plus whatever for springs and the strut tubes (figure you'd know that off the top of your head better than me) so wotever. Never tried to price out Fiat stuff, so no idea what else is available in that price range. I know for a competitive 1st gen RX-7 roadrace suspension in what SCCA classes exist for the things in this country, he has/had the least expensive *competitive* setup available.
Maybe there's a killing there to be made selling Bilstein based stuff, by someone who knows what they're doing valving Bilstein based stuff, to roadrace guys. Friends of ours recently upgraded to Dynamic struts/springs which are on the order of 10k new... for the 1st gen RX-7 for example, there's not much availabe in the range between "street shit" and that, but the chassis is still out in front setup right and with the right driver. |
MeCalledEvan Evan Horner Super Moderator Location: Columbus OH Join Date: 01/03/2012 Age: Settling Down Posts: 109 Rally Car: 1983 Mazda RX7 GSL |
No totally. Don't worry about it. I'll figure something out about it, either buy it from him or not. We'll see. Thanks. "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know and have so much more to learn." - Claude Rouelle, Optimum G lecture June, 2011 |
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