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7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....

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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 03:16PM
John:

I did cycle the stroke. There was no evidence whatsoever of oil leaking around the shaft so that is good. I was under the impression that the shaft should automatically extend once i shoved it into insert. I put the nut back on the end and held it in my bench vise and pushed pulled a few times. This is when I discovered the gurgling noise in the remote res and discovered the leak from the fitting. I am trying to get KW to fedex me another hose and fitting so I can install that and figure out the methodology and capacity of filling the right amount of fluid in the res.

If I understand you on the long shoe horn, I am slathering grease down into the body so it fills the voids between the bushings in the body. In between the red arrows on the pic below



The PSI was for the nitrogen charge of the resevoirs. KW literature says about 145 PSI. This is in line with some of the sway-a-way coilovers I have run in the past (160sih-170ish).

KW made these shocks for the car about 8 or more years ago when dodge commissioned these neons to be built. supposedly they were the shit at the time, or so the prior owner of my car told me. Honestly, I am looking forward to these new bilstien inserts and getting some new suspension made when I get some cash next year. Until then, these will have to suffice.
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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 03:30PM
Yeah the gap you indicated.

OK in future, don't fawk with the gas, you can piss away the whole volume in one bad chuck application.

Man I serious pull my hair out and chain smoke and slap the UPS guy when I wait 2-, now three months on Bilstein.
7 months for thos guys, I hear 6 months for Karl Jardevall to get is EVO Proflex rebuilt, 6 months for some RSSPSSPSP
All that for SERVICE!

I'm making the whole gawddamn thing, all the parts and I don't take that long....
Too long in my opinion sometimes, but not that long..

I feel for you. (There. through common ground of suffering delays we share something together...See? I can can poke fun at you and others but its not mean its poking fun cause we've all be fawked and had many of the same bad experiences. Brotherhood via misery. Understanding via emapthy.)


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John:

I did cycle the stroke. There was no evidence whatsoever of oil leaking around the shaft so that is good. I was under the impression that the shaft should automatically extend once i shoved it into insert. I put the nut back on the end and held it in my bench vise and pushed pulled a few times. This is when I discovered the gurgling noise in the remote res and discovered the leak from the fitting. I am trying to get KW to fedex me another hose and fitting so I can install that and figure out the methodology and capacity of filling the right amount of fluid in the res.

If I understand you on the long shoe horn, I am slathering grease down into the body so it fills the voids between the bushings in the body. In between the red arrows on the pic below



The PSI was for the nitrogen charge of the resevoirs. KW literature says about 145 PSI. This is in line with some of the sway-a-way coilovers I have run in the past (160sih-170ish).

KW made these shocks for the car about 8 or more years ago when dodge commissioned these neons to be built. supposedly they were the shit at the time, or so the prior owner of my car told me. Honestly, I am looking forward to these new bilstien inserts and getting some new suspension made when I get some cash next year. Until then, these will have to suffice.



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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 08:06PM
Sean, the nitrogeh charge in the canister is seperated from the oil with a bladder. The nitrogen does not directly act on the oil, only allows a chamber for the displaced oil from heat expansion and a small bit from shock movement a place to go, and prevent oil foaming. That being said, when changing the hose or canister, there is a bleeding proceedure. If you can't do this, I would call your local motorcycle dealer that has a strong off road dept. and ask who locally re-builds and valves motorcross stuff. They will probably be able to properly bleed and install the hose.
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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 10:17PM
Sean M when that 14mm shaft on your rear shock plunges in, the volume of oil displaced is almost 10% of what's in the tube...that oil has to go somewhere. I don't think the volume of oil is growing by even 1% even when were turning the shafts pale blue from heat..

And Plus Juan on find a local MX place to help on the fill and charge.



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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 11:02PM
Update: I should have a new hose with fittings fed ex'd here tomorrow. $199 plus shipping. I, with a straight face asked if it was the gold plated one.

jezzuss on a cracker....but what can I do. Ugh.

Thanks for the tip on the MX. I have a pretty good shop by my house. KW did say that their tech might be available to walk me through bleeding on the phone. Of course tonight I am going to go to my University of Learning Mechanical Shit....er....youtube...and see what they have for videos. I would surmise that I need too compress the shock, fill up the reservoir, extend the shock, cycle it a few time to get the bubbles to the top of the elevated res, then compress again and top off. What could go wrong winking smiley
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Re: 7 months to get my shocks rebuilt now this....
June 04, 2012 11:24PM
Not rocket science



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