phlat65 Sean Medcroft Godlike Moderator Location: Edmonds, Washington Join Date: 02/12/2009 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,802 Rally Car: Building a Merkur |
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
I'd be on board, though my skill set with trannies usually has more to do with back alleys than electronic controls. Grant Hughes |
AaronJMcConnell AaronJMcConnell Super Moderator Location: Evergreen Colorado Join Date: 04/11/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 76 Rally Car: Subaru Impreza |
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bttmotorsport Jari Hamalainen Godlike Moderator Location: Cape Coral, FL Join Date: 12/12/2010 Age: Ancient Posts: 119 Rally Car: Opel Monza, Chevy Monza to be finished 2012, BMW 318 iS |
Thanks guys for taking your time to plan soultions for us.. Please keep in mind though that my finances aren´t that great, so don´t use too much of your time and efforts for the project...
![]() Let´s hope that the revised ZF would hold up at least 3 events thats planned for this spring... |
phlat65 Sean Medcroft Godlike Moderator Location: Edmonds, Washington Join Date: 02/12/2009 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,802 Rally Car: Building a Merkur |
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wvonkessler Wilson von Kessler Ultra Moderator Location: Lookout Mountain, GA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,127 Rally Car: Colts are in Finland; now '87 325i, '89 325i |
I'm willing to invest a small amount in needed electronics, solenoid, etc.
"Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne "Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain |
DrivingImpaired Kyle Benedict Mega Moderator Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: 04/16/2014 Posts: 2 Rally Car: e36 328is |
Hey guys, I know this thread is about a year old but I am wondering if anything came about from it...
My name is Kyle Benedict and I am just getting into rally myself. I am also a paraplegic using hand controls AND have an e36 (328is) as my rally car. I don't even have the hand controls in her yet but I've been doing all sorts of research on people in chairs who rally, e36's, etc. Specialstage forums sent me here and of course pointed me to Jari. I've also been in contact with Chris Hrabek (a quadriplegic rallyist!) who, in addition to referencing Jari, got me in contact with Matt Brandenburg of Brakim Motorsports who isn't disabled but is running an e36. It's been quite a whirlwind of research and contact making so here I am... hoping to learn as much as possible. Jari, and anyone else with insight into rallying e36's (especially auto trans), please tell me everything I need to know or point me where to find it- I'm all ears! Thanks, Kyle |
DaveK Dave Kern Mega Moderator Location: Centennial Join Date: 07/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 1,085 Rally Car: Compact M3 & Evo IX |
Kyle,
Welcome! I bought Jari's BMW and while I've converted it back to a manual gearbox and have returned the hand controls, I do still have a bunch of of the automatic transmission parts. They were from an E30, as there were less 'nanny electronics' in those older parts than in the E36 bits. I believe the gearbox has all the bells and whistles that you can throw at it, but the torque converter needs refreshed/replaced. Two of the three bolts that hold it to the flywheel loosened up and knackered up the threads on the TC. The parts are now in Denver, CO. I did get to drive the car on gravel with the setup, and it was pretty snappy. Only complaint is that sometimes when you wanted a downshift you wouldn't get it. The trick was to stab the brakes real quick to induce rear lockup so the speed sensor thought it was slow enough to shift. Easy'ish workaround, but I think there's room for improvement in that area. Dave |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Some might claim rallying an E36 is a evidence of a disability, at the very least a mental handicap. ![]() They are cool cars for rallying. John (JVA ![]() Out of out shop we've done a handful of cages and I stock and sell Porterfield pads and make skidplates for the E36 models. We can also do a weld in cage kit for any E36 model, $1500 and up plus shipping from Denver. In process of updating my website with information on what we have available, hopefully live by the end of this month. We are working on developing more parts specific to the E36 for rallying. Stock vented brakes seem to be sufficient starting out provided you have good pads. We are working on a rally brake kit but that's another one that won't be til either later in the year unless someone comes along with some money that needs it. Not much experience with autos but we might have a few spare auto pedal sets around if you need any! Dave already posted about all the auto stuff he has lying around. Good luck and welcome!!! Grant Hughes |
tdrrally edward mucklow Mega Moderator Location: charleston,wv Join Date: 05/31/2011 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 763 Rally Car: ford mustang LX 5.0, 1973 VW Beetle |
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DrivingImpaired Kyle Benedict Mega Moderator Location: Atlanta, GA Join Date: 04/16/2014 Posts: 2 Rally Car: e36 328is |
Thanks everyone for getting back to me! Jari and I have been emailing back and forth and he is overloading me with excellent information.
I'm probably getting ahead of myself a bit about the tranny concerns since I haven't even driven her yet! Jari wrote me a pretty good explanation of what I will encounter but it's hard for me to fully grasp it until I experience it myself I guess. (I told him, my e92 335 has the Alpina TCU flash which downshifts like a pro and does rev-matching as well. Not driving with that will definitely be a new experience for me!) Dave, thanks for the update on Jari's car and your experiences with it. Grant, your first sentence made me laugh out loud! Also, as I get this thing built, I will be keeping you and John in mind for those parts you mentioned. Luckily I will just be starting out in simple Rallycross events, so investing in a cage won't eat into my budget for a while yet. Tdrally, that went way over my head! |
tdrrally edward mucklow Mega Moderator Location: charleston,wv Join Date: 05/31/2011 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 763 Rally Car: ford mustang LX 5.0, 1973 VW Beetle |
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4l60e is very easy to convert to a manual valve body,or paddle shift the newer versions have a bolt on bell housing, gm has a 60deg v6 that uses the 4l60 trans the bell housing is smaller than the 90deg v8 monster transmission sells a race/hd kit for the 4l60 that would work for your needs the only issue i can see is the engine to trans adaptor you would need at any rate i'm looking forward to meeting and rallying with you I would rather drive a slow car fast as a fast car slow! first rule of cars: get what makes you happy, your the one paying for it! |
bttmotorsport Jari Hamalainen Godlike Moderator Location: Cape Coral, FL Join Date: 12/12/2010 Age: Ancient Posts: 119 Rally Car: Opel Monza, Chevy Monza to be finished 2012, BMW 318 iS |
Problem with e36 is the size of 4L60, we thought about that too, but would require quite bit of body modification + the electronic side isn´t quite that simple, or cheap... |
tdrrally edward mucklow Mega Moderator Location: charleston,wv Join Date: 05/31/2011 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 763 Rally Car: ford mustang LX 5.0, 1973 VW Beetle |
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drop the electrics and run straight manual 4l60 you guys are deeper in to the e36 than i am, but it sounds like a very cool project I would rather drive a slow car fast as a fast car slow! first rule of cars: get what makes you happy, your the one paying for it! |