Volvo 1030 axles
Posted by Eric Ewert
Eric Ewert Ultra Moderator Location: Calgary, Ab Join Date: 05/13/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 366 Rally Car: volvo 240 |
I dunno man, too tired to look it up.
Im kinda stumped after starting this thread. Everyone actually came to the table with valid arguments for going various routes. This is what i'm seeing, this factors in a t5 gearbox in there. Volvo 1030 Pros Cheapest, would have it together for around 800$ Axle : Need to have it shipped here so say 400$ R@P: 150$ If coming from a 140 may have the right gearing but count on needing one Fresh bearing/ seals. I dunno 120$ Driveshaft adapter: 90$ Driveshaft from pnp:40$ Bolts in, easiest and fastest to put together Cons: Probably fine strength wise but is the weakest Hardest to find No cheap diff thats good for gravel Toyota 8 inch Pros Far more plentiful than a volvo axle Removable center section... I quite like the idea of this. Supra diff slots in it... and I have one already. Stronger than a volvo 1030 by a good amount With the diff in there would work better than a welded 1030 Cons Cost... see below Supra diff from yard: 90$ Complete axle: 130$ Count on a ring and pinion but 4.88's did come in these things. 160$ Rebuild kit:120$ Redrill axles, well ill leave this out. I may have matt or my school who can help with this. But as discussed above 160$ Driveshaft: I dunno, here in calgary probably 500$ minimum to have a custom one done up. E-Brake: no easy solution for a ebrake that is safe for parking. Line lock? Must fabricate panhard mount aftermarket 4 link. Probably easier than swapping volvo mounts over: 200$ ish in parts Total: Minimum 1200$, not including ebrake or cost of machining axles. Say 1500$ But it is a better axle. Ford 9 inch. Similar to yoda but about 20x them in pick n pull. With lsds. and brake options. But you would be looking at adapters or different wheels to keep factory brakes. Get the displeasure of shortening an axle. Not something im comfortable with doing and not sure what it would cost. Could be cheaper than the toyota. And would have way more parts available to it. But It is probably a good bit heavier. Ill sleep on it. Who knows I might just spur of the moment go and pull a pathfinder axle out of the yard just to piss everyone off. 
Im not actually going to do that, however there are a lot of those things in the yard and if memory is correct they got removable center sections and are similar width to toyota. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2014 02:19AM by Eric Ewert. |
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Shop right. Some of thos stupid things came with 4.67 or shorter. Beggars can't be cHosers, Price for 4.88 meh find a 4.67 fawkin grab it, do the 4.88 later if you find your being held back by 4.67. LOOK at it, skip "rebuild." Its a fucking TOYOTA diff...they're marvy. Your current diff is Ok and its USED!!!!!! Oh Noez! well the Toiletta is used but its WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAYYYY better so don't worry. Weld diff---till you can afford a El Ess Dee. Handbrake if you splurge for a "quaaaaaaality' handbrake master will hold--especially if you put the wheels to the curb as you should---never lost a car in Seattle--we have a few hills. Propshaft--use brains---outsmart the bastids... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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Lots and lots of cars have been rallied successfully with other than 4.88 diffs. Anything near 4.5 is plenty and with a decent transmission and 175 hp then 4.00 can work. LSD , yup nice but some guys go pretty fast with a Lincoln Locker...I've rallied with an open diff and somehow survived.
So, I wouldn't spend money to go in a wrong direction, especially if it is wrong and difficult. Seems like 1030s are hard to find, hard to LSD, iffy on gearing and you have to spend money and go out of your way to do so. Toyota.. brackets should be nearly a non-issue for anyone building a rally car. Cut, grind, weld. axle shaft..a bit more difficult but I bet I know a guy who can do them for a moderate fee..done right. driveline ..iffy. Iffy the tube is the same diameter and either shortened or a different yoke of the correct size is installed then really not a big deal. Balancing usually isn't far enough off to worry about, honestly. Keep things straight and weld neatly. I don't know how many drivelines I've cut in days gone by with no big issue. We never balanced rally tires and a rim full of mud fawks things up in a heart beat anyway. DROP IN GEARSETS..should be self explanatory.. Ford..doesn't fit, doesn't fit right after extensive mods, expensive gear changes, costs as much or more. You already own the Supra LSD..you could go another route and sell your parts, you could go another route and still do a Toy later..but why? E-Brakes... hydraulic works. Either use the stock handle with the button pinned or a fancy schmancy one with a board or bungee cord. Daily driven rally cars..no, no, no. Do it right, do it once. Life is like that. A DNF costs more than the difference in building a good diff. Cheap and easy usually applies to the crack whore working the truck stops.... Chin up lil buckaroo ! or sell the whole mess and buy a Sube.. 
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There are a couple of times we've seen rally cars, with quality components, roll away after being left on their hydraulic handbrakes. Most recently, it was a car that had to stop mid-stage beacuse of an emergency situation. Best thinking on the situation was that as the brakes cooled, the fluid 'contracted,' reducing the pressure on the handbrake. (I can easily see this same cooling coming into play when changing a flat at the end of a stage... maybe even in the middle.) If it is easy to accomplish, I think there is good reason for a mechanical handbrake. First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015 
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He's up there where there has to be piles of wannbe Mountain Men with the 4-runners all with fat, TALL tires so with a little searching he ought to be able to find one with the 4.67 or even the 4.88...just have to spend the time to search a bit...but as i said with college, time is a premium.. 'xactly
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In stock and shock mounts too just for this.
Xratty-boy Matt just right down the road nearly certainly can do the thing--he accepts payment in beer. Drilling the holes is not too rough with a Bridgeport---you crank the head way out so you can hang the axle over the edge of the bed and secure axle with a V block and normal clamps.. DRO and I have the X and Y to make it soooooooper easy
Yep--weld yoke for $18 at diff end and a weld yoke for 1310 at the other for another $18. V blocks, goood chamfer, tack in 3-4 spots and weld. DROP IN GEARSETS..should be self explanatory..
It CAN but yeah--everywhere but Turdboatpricks its more work
They really work good with the nice big Volvo rear calipers.
I dunno, I've done it, park in 1st gear, wheels cut to curb correctly. Never had one roll away---done a number for other guys in years past and they parked them on hills too, no problems..
Yep..just delayed gratification a bit...delayed gratification builds work ethic, makes America strong.. Dun't know what it does for Canajians tho 
Yep looks like a big deal but gawddam this kid do a whole cage and did it good, zotting on a few tabs and a propshaft is nuthing compared to that... DOOOOOOOO IT. And just think---drop out center section...aaaahhhh so easy... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2014 12:23PM by john vanlandingham. |
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