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400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build

Vincent Gagnon
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 04:24PM
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Robert Culbertson
since the preload doesn't wear off after just a few rallies (I'm looking at you mk3 Supra diff with the Weir kit...)

A citation is needed here.



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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 04:45PM
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Jr Varsity-Bench Warmer #2
Sounds like the mic just hit the floor...

Some of us live on the west coast and have jobs that require us to actually work throughout the day. I can usually post once and a while when I'm taking a dump, but that's about it.
So not a mic drop?

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Also, not everybody is in the USA were ya pay no taxes and you have shit for public services.

Wait wut? Now your bitter that I live in the land of freedom and bald eagles?


Sound like the fucking piece of shit that you are you fucking little ''party animal'' go fuck youself asswipe i've been out of university for some years now and you fucking think i don't work all week you scumbag? Have you ever been to school?

And fuck you, i'd rather pay taxes and have free heathcare and less fucking pigs shooting people... and you don't live in a land of freedom, that's a myth made by cunts like you!
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 04:46PM
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Vincent Gagnon
A citation is needed here.

Mon Dieu! eye popping smiley If les Frenchies from the north keep up this level of antagonism to US citizens then they may end up building another wall along the top border to keep those pesky foreigners out!

Hmm, if I start annoying them from the east and someone can start heckling from the west they might just build walls all around them and that will keep the USAsians and their orange leader contained... It's a long shot but it might just work Scotty.



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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 04:48PM
So, still think your less than 400$ mod is worth it? I think the toyota rear end is better for not significantly more. thats 780$ cad to my door for ring and pinion, bearing kit & that locker you wank about...



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Vincent Gagnon
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 05:12PM
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danster
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Vincent Gagnon
A citation is needed here.

Mon Dieu! eye popping smiley If les Frenchies from the north keep up this level of antagonism to US citizens then they may end up building another wall along the top border to keep those pesky foreigners out!

Hmm, if I start annoying them from the east and someone can start heckling from the west they might just build walls all around them and that will keep the USAsians and their orange leader contained... It's a long shot but it might just work Scotty.



I've being saying that for ages.
But Ontario (and Alberta) should also be nuked, paved and nuked again. God damn loyalists!
But let the maritimes folk out of that, they drink a lot, they talk funny and they have a fucking good sense of humour. I like them.



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If they don't give you work, ask for bread.
If they do not give you work or bread, then take bread.

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Philippe Bellefleur
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 05:14PM
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Vincent Gagnon
A citation is needed here.

Mon Dieu! eye popping smiley If les Frenchies from the north keep up this level of antagonism to US citizens then they may end up building another wall along the top border to keep those pesky foreigners out!

Hmm, if I start annoying them from the east and someone can start heckling from the west they might just build walls all around them and that will keep the USAsians and their orange leader contained... It's a long shot but it might just work Scotty.

Soooo... you'll build it AND pay for it? I've got no issues with that!
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 06:15PM
All it took was one thread to remind me why I don't visit this forum anymore.

Complaining that someone didn't convert prices and shipping to loonies and toonies? Christ on a crutch...

Let's crunch my numbers real quick...

Volvo 1030 axle = free
4.88 r&p from rockauto = $120ish
Bearing kit from rockauto = $70ish
Friend who has experience and will help swap r&p, press bearings, set preload, etc... = free (and priceless)
Same friend to TIG weld diff closed = free (and again, priceless.)

So, my axle set me back around $190 US dollars, plus some shipping monies, which was around $20 maybe?

So there's a well under $300 rally ready Volvo axle.

Please flame me now.
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 07:11PM
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A bunch of real world facts

So there's a well under $300 rally ready Volvo axle.

Please flame me now.

Dude! Are hose Canadian pesos or American doll hairs?
They gonna burn you at the stake!
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 07:17PM
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since the preload doesn't wear off after just a few rallies (I'm looking at you mk3 Supra diff with the Weir kit...)

A citation is needed here.

The diff in the Dave's xratty has been reshimmed 2 times. Once by be, once by another shop. Even after 3 rallies it's already backed off a bunch again.
Probably due to the spring being a belville washer, which looses spring force extremely quick as the clutches wear and the compressed distance changes.
The "lesser" Weir kit might work better in the long run if you wanted less maintenance and more consistent preload.

Also, look at diff designs, the mk3 Supra diff doesn't increase preload like a Salisbury (normal racing clutch plate diff). The Supra diff is more susceptible to clutch wear due to its design.



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Vincent Gagnon
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 07:18PM
...
1 supposed example.
2 truthiness.

But I believe you.

What is "a bunch"?
Cars are not built with probability.



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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 07:41PM
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What is "a bunch"?
Cars are not built with probability.

Currently less than 85lb-ft. It'll spin the diff when the wheel is in the air and you torque a lug nut. Was set at over 250 initially (215 lb me on a breaker bar verified). After 7 rallies you can spin the tire by hand (acts as an open diff) so maybe 5-25 lb-ft



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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 08:08PM
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danster
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Vincent Gagnon
A citation is needed here.

Mon Dieu! eye popping smiley If les Frenchies from the north keep up this level of antagonism to US citizens then they may end up building another wall along the top border to keep those pesky foreigners out!

Hmm, if I start annoying them from the east and someone can start heckling from the west they might just build walls all around them and that will keep the USAsians and their orange leader contained... It's a long shot but it might just work Scotty.

Danny, even hinting that Quebecois are anything like Frenchies is worse than calling you a Englishman....Yeah, that bad...serious fights and people carried outta bars feet first are common outcomes when that occurs..These guys have said right out "Fawk those fawkin poncy French bastards and their pooftie langauge. WE speak real manly men French here...."



And don't give them too many ideas, I know they'd gladly build a wall and a MOAT filled with rabid beavers between them and Ontario....and you wanna hear good salty sustained swearing???, just mention Alberta..eye popping smiley

And they have no antagonism to US citzens....just some.



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Vincent Gagnon
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 08:54PM
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What is "a bunch"?
Cars are not built with probability.

Currently less than 85lb-ft. It'll spin the diff when the wheel is in the air and you torque a lug nut. Was set at over 250 initially (215 lb me on a breaker bar verified). After 7 rallies you can spin the tire by hand (acts as an open diff) so maybe 5-25 lb-ft

Ok, you got me, I don't know what you are babblin' about.

Are you talking about preload? (wich is suppose to be between 8.7 and 13.9 in.lb (on new bearings)

Or you are talking about the breakaway torque?

Or are you just bullshitting again?



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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 08, 2017 09:47PM
Break away torque of the diff, which comes from the preload on the clutch packs inside the carrier/diff.

Read this: http://www.intothered.dk/simracing/differential.html

Now compare that to the mk3 Supra diff and report back on the differences in design and function of the differential.
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Re: 400$ volvo 240 live axle rally capable build
December 09, 2017 04:51AM
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Mon Dieu! eye popping smiley If les Frenchies from the north keep up this level of antagonism to US citizens then they may end up building another wall along the top border to keep those pesky foreigners out!

Hmm, if I start annoying them from the east and someone can start heckling from the west they might just build walls all around them and that will keep the USAsians and their orange leader contained... It's a long shot but it might just work Scotty.

Soooo... you'll build it AND pay for it? I've got no issues with that!

My idea was that enough isolationist Amercians would be motivated to produce American bricks & mortar and supply the American labour, thus stimulating American economic activity by creating American products and American jobs, paying American wages and those wage recipients paying American taxes to pay for American public services and healthcare.
Admittedly I had imbibed a few ciders prior to posting last night, so in the sober light of day I see there may be flaws in that plan.

How and ever, I hereby suggest the following back up:

Population of planet = 7.5 billion
Population of USA = 325 million

With US foreign policy spreading such delightful peace and harmony to non- USAsians around the planet, I'd imagine there's potential for a global crowdfund where rather than donating cash, donors choose to give a breeze block.
7.175 billion breeze blocks bound to be a decent start. Feck it, I'm feeling generous this morning so I'll donate 10 blocks.



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