Morten Wrote:
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> "Realistically, there is very little that can be
> done at a distance.
> Very little that should be expected after the
> various subterfuges and evasions about paying that
> I dealt with from you (sorta sucks doesn't it? I
> mean had you paid promtly I would say "Bring it
> back and lets look at it and see what might have
> caUSED THE PROBLEM.".)(Not to mention the 140 plus
> emails much like we are seeing here....hundreds
> and hundreds of questions.... )
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> And there's the question of the motor having been
> in another shops hands since then, for the little
> zaaaap on the leak that any shop could have just
> reached in with the mig-gun and done (and which
> you were advised was the smartesrt course of
> action, and reccomended to talk to Rocket where I
> had described the problem to them....but
> NOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOO. you went elsewhere)"
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> Are you going to stop this flame non-sense anytime
> soon !
Morten, this isn't flame nonsense. It's a simple fact, no MORAL judgements at all.
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> I have been pretty patient, let the past slide,
> tried to make ammends with you and until your last
> post I really felt that the past was the past.
There are no amends to be made. Just because I chooose not to do business with you doesn't mean I don't want to see a fellow rally-type guy get their car together.
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> John I don't want to get back into this with you,
> I've been trying to embrace the future and forget
> the past but evidently you are unable to do so.
I don't forget that I had to scrable around to pay my mortgage while you dithered about with lame excuses, you were off the bottom of the "Christams card list" at that point.
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> This transaction with Van bogart and the bloody
> cages, was how many years ago ?
Just 3. Does that mean that his defrauding me gets all better?
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> You're right I did talk to Rocket, but you'll also
> remember telling me that you saw the welding they
> did in Andy's car, and you said you were not
> impressed.
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> I didn't go to Rocket in Squamish because when my
> car was delivered to me, my new motor was leaking
> a quart every 48 hours just sitting in my garage.
> Squamish is about 60 miles away, and I couldn't
> drive the car because of the leak. Newly built
> motor and unable to drive the car -> Nice !
Now this is where I still get pissed.
You delivered a motor in pieces blown up a couple of years before.
Built SEVENTEEN years before.
The head was damaged, valve or two broken, pistons tired.
I had the head repaired for HUNDREDS less than any other option.
Freshen the bores, cleaned and magnafluxed the crank and polished it.
That was the extent of the damage and wear.
You know that somebody else, and this is where you show your somewhat slimey side, modified the pan, and somebody installed the "Accusump" crap on top of the oil cooler taKE OFF.
You continually allude that _I_ had something to do with YOUR PAN having a leak.
You attempt to paint that picture.
I installed the pan that YOU supplied.
I've done that for 25 years without checking for leaks (except in the NE where rust thru was a constant issue).
Before anything could be done we were already into the 6 or 7 or 8 wek struggle to get payment for MY outlay for parts, and machine work for your plaything.
THERE DISAPPEARED any williness to help in any significant way and any future business relationship.
I even said it makes no sense to screw the only person who to that point had been willing to help you.
Not smart at all.
And so once again you allude intentionally that I am responsible for your pan, modified by others, (who you probably know who it is) leaking.
Had you paid when told, I would have jumped on the thing, it was easily reachable from above or the side.
Crazy a business model as it may be but people that pay when presented with a bill, get good service.
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> Instead of going to rocket because of the
> distance, I contacted the West Coast Rally
> Association and numerous people including Paul
> Westwick recommended the shop I took the leaking
> motor to to get fixed. They took the motor out,
> removed the pan, and welded it out of the car.
> That definately couldn't have hurt the motor.
Do we have any idea at all how they primed the oil pump?
How long the motor was cranked before fire up??
(Those are legitimate questions, not attempts top shift blame or attention.)
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> I've been biting my tongue since my motor seized
> and I will continue to do so, and for the sake of
> everyone else you should do the same.
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> It's laughable that you would try to blame the
> Accusump on the failure especially since you
> re-installed it on the motor yourself !
As it arrived; I wasn't told by the owner to take it off, and I'm NOT blaming it, fuckhead. I have ASKED if there could be some hook up fuck ups. I don't like to add gee gaws and trinkets as they add variables into equations, come on, you can see that can't you??
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> JVL... Let's stop this flame bullshit here and now
It's not flaming, Flaming is a pointless thing intending to be a pointless attack.
By that standard you moaning about the leak in your oil pan that somebody else modded in the way you have done repeatedly is "flaming" and "Trolling" or whatever cutsey Interne talk it is.
I suggest you stop trying selectively forget things, such as your role in creating my arttitude towards resolving things.
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> Lets focus on the failure analysis so we may all
> learn something from this !!!
That is also why I have posted here, the whole process can be educational, but part of that whole process is how the 2 way street works, and how fucked up things get when people stick things on when they clearly have no idea of what they are doing, other than opening boxes and mounting components.
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> Morten.
John Vanlandingham
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