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Fenders and paint, part deux

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Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 10:06AM
The purpose of this thread is to demonstrate the risks and benefits of drinking whilst working on the car. I begin with photo evidence:

Exhibit A. A charming day, not too hot, nice breeze, no rain in the forecast. Grab a rickards and strip that body.


Exhibit B. Once the outer rocker cover was bent up, essentially 50% of the inner sheet had rotted away. Here is the view "before", with the new box tube bolted in place under the door frame.


Exhibit C. Inner brace repaired.


Exhibit D. In a rare moment of beer-induced genius, I decided to change my plan for fixing the outer rocker cover. Rather than the complicated stepped-in process I went through last time to match the factory appearence, why not just make the damn thing flat? Worlds easier..


Exhibit E. Since it was still nice out, call up 2 hulking gentlemen to invert the car once more. Rotisseries are for sissies (though the shell is getting a lot heavier with all that cage nonsense in it). Drilled out the spot welds holding the old rear bump stops in place.


Exhibit F. With the aid of a jigsaw and another round (it's getting hot out now), some nice 12ga plates were designed to support the frame rails under the load of jacking/stands. Welded them in:



Exhibit G. Now everything goes off the tracks. This is the view of the underside as it rested - notice all the undercoating remaining on the bottom of the car. I should have removed this with the LN2 back in the fall, but since I had no idea how much we were using, only the seams were stripped at the time. The remaining undercoating is soaked in a terrible mixture of gear oil (smelly) road dirt and crud which is impervious to all pressure washing, rendering it completely unpaintable.


Exhibit H. Rather than accept this smelly undercoating, I had the great idea to attack it with a wire wheel on the angle grinder. 4 HOURS LATER, everything in sight is covered in little bits of smelly undercoating bits and I have a tan made of gunk.



Exhibit I. What this SHOULD have looked like months ago:


Exhibit J. Some tremclad for my troubles. I was running out of time in the day and had to flip the car back down, so anything which could reasonably be done on jackstands was left for later...

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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 10:09AM
Moral of the story? Buy the car from some place which isn't in love with dumping tonnes of salt on the road 6 months of the year, and have it acid dipped. My time is worth more than dealing with this crap...but at least I know how I'll do it *next* time! You can't buy these kinds of character building afternoons...
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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 10:16AM
Fuck that. Win powerball or marry a rich girl who will support it so you can pay someone else to do this for you.



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 02:05PM
Yah no kidding. FYI, Tremclad is a freaking tough paint. After letting it dry for 30min we flipped the car back over and DRAGGED it on the frame rails about 2m on asphalt. When I went under to put the cover back on, only some dirt was stuck to it, no scrapes at all. Hopefully the thinned version will be as resiliant on the rest of the car...
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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 02:15PM
Paddy get under that car and chop off all the external fuel pump mounting junk-n-stuff.



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 18, 2006 06:32PM
PAddy Wrote:
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> Moral of the story? Buy the car from some place
> which isn't in love with dumping tonnes of salt on
> the road 6 months of the year, and have it acid
> dipped.

But on the bright side, rusty cars tend to shed their undercoating quite easily...

If that's a bright side.

I've never had to really deal with that weird German Undercoating von Hell, though. The crud Mazda and Subaru used is no match for the cup wheel. Heck, even a decently strong degreaser and a pressure wand will take it right off, as I discovered on a Subaru.






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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
August 21, 2006 01:56AM
Pete Wrote:
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> I've never had to really deal with that weird
> German Undercoating von Hell, though.

Oh - it's bad - trust me!
LN is pretty hard to come by here in Denmark, so I had to settle for dry ice. Used it for the tar-stuff on the floor of my Golve. Tar-crud/crap came off real easy after 15 minutes of freezing - but that seam sealer crap? Holy smokes - tried freezing some of it for close to an hour by putting the dry ice on it. Never really worked - so I had to go at it with the wire wheel. It isn't that bad though - it makes some weird little boogers all over the place - but it's still way better than the tar that smears everywhere.



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 04:42PM
Well since I got back from a motivating journey to Sleazattle, I decided to get my ass in gear and get some

more stuff done on the car:

Welding shut drain holes in driver's side (seat mounts visible):


Re-welding the swaybar captive nuts, since they like to spin and are inside(!) the damn frame rail:


Making up some creased patch pieces to reinforce the cheesy factory floor:


Driver's side in place:


Passenger in some detail:


More fender rot, holes in wheel arches, wheel well:




Beginning to patch it all up:



Filled with foam:


Onto the fenders, first patching up the plastic body cladding holes:


Welding on a tab to convert the fenders to bolt on, instead of the 51 factory spot welds:


Fender support doohicky I cut out by accident earlier:


Bolted in place:




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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 05:10PM
Wow. That looks like a lot of work. I wish I lived where it wasn't so blasted hot outside and had the proper tools to have at a project like that. Damn. Looks like that thing is really coming along nicely.



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 05:18PM
One of the side reasons for my trip to Washington state last week included picking up some items and shipping

them back to myself truck freight once I got it all (300lbs) back into Canada. Let's see here, nice big

boxes:


Nice LSD out of a Supra with a 4.3 final drive:


RX7 Oil cooler:


Cossie 2wd intercooler:


Close up of IC inlet:


Power steering cooler:
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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 05:19PM
Lift pump for a fuel cell out of some Saab:


Volvo expansion tank with nice bracket:


Rad fans off a turbo Saab:


Sump guard center support - this prevents the sump guard from smashing into the oil pan and lets you run a

thinner plate:


Close up of center support mounting point:


Cossie fuel pressure regulator (nice as it doesn't bolt to the rail!):


Euro headlamp wiring connectors:


Bracket to mount a master cylinder to the stock handbrake location to make it hydraulic:
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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 05:20PM
Saphire knuckles and matching TCAs:


Nice shot of the pinch bolt mounting on the knuckles:


Motorsports cosworth exhaust housing:


You'll not the wastegate bracket is beefed up, and the attachment points slotted so that you can remove it in

about 2min with only a small amount of clearence:


Adapters to connect the supra diff to stock halfshafts:


Beefed up motor mounts made from hacked up stock units. These are copies of the motorsports units which mount

directly to the chassis rails, and not to the front crossmember, some assembly required on the sheetmetal!



Big bushes:


Metal to make boxes:


Brake hats:


BIG rotors compared to stock POS's!:



What's in here?


Nice!


For scale...



Also went and picked up a spare motor yesterday afternoon, thanks Ian! It was a tight fit in the trunk...

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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 06:39PM
Wow! I bet you make out like a bandit at Christmas too! Those brakes are fecking niiiiiice.



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 08:48PM
Nice work on the car! Gets me excited to work on mine!

Cheers! John



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Re: Fenders and paint, part deux
September 02, 2006 09:04PM
Brian stop bitching about the heat.

What would you rather have heat or metal termites ? Look at the bright side you won't have to (or should I have said I won't have to) replace your rockers.

I hope you are ready to get to work tomorow, I'll make sure you understand why they call me the slave driver (or asshole in some circles).





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