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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 24, 2014 10:58AM
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John - Thanks for the response. Yes, I have also heard about the Cagethis builder. I am sure I will have a conversation with him shortly.

Couple of questions:

1. Are all those 50mm product spoken for or is there a set available for sale? Do you sell them with springs and top mounts ready to go as well? So that way all I have to do is cut the nipple/volcano top thing off and drill some holes and done?

2. As far as final drives, I hear what you are saying. I'll take your suggesiton and bump up into a 4.47 or better. Does that mean you have a good 4.47 or 4.67 for sale?

Lastly, unfortunately I dont speak German but my buddy is native from there so he could serve as a go between but I think his main job will be as a mule to carry these parts over back to the U.S. from his homeland.......that is of course if you dont already have a fresh one laying around...

Well the 6 units ordered already are "kind of" spoken for, kinda. Deposits have been recieved for some and are supposedly on the way for the others... But that's no bigee. Just send a deposit and you're on the list.

I supply stuff ready to open the box and throw it on---usually..
Springs and spacers like for the rear shock bottom included... Some cars, like the later BMWs and Focus which have top mounts which are just a rubber bush and bonded steel sleeve with no bearing, they get top mounts with a big fat 7/8" spherical bearing. (7/8" is .875" and the "industry standard" for real gravel stuff is 22mm, that's .866" so I go inch cause its like 1/3 the cost for replacements ---we are privateers after all)

On Golves to use the Subie top mounts you don't have to chop off the 'volcano', just drill 3 holes. Super easy---I wish it was always that easy....

As for the alternate final drive, nothing on the shelf, they're too expensive to just have laying around on the off-chance than maybe one day somebody wants good stuff...all my money is wrapped up in making tubes and spring seats and brake kit parts...

I did have saved a Fleabay.de deal for second hand 4.67 or 4.63 but it disappeared from "meine ebay"... The words to look for is kurtze achseübersätzung or ''short axle translation''
020 is ancient stuff nowdays, I wonder if its smarter to think of 02A.



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 24, 2014 12:46PM
John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

I hear you on the FD, i should have one in my hands after new years or so...

As far as the 020, i am sticking with it for now since my kaaz diff is in it already and the box in general is in excellent shape. also, i have a fresh rebuilt 9A sitting in my garage and have another rebuild of an 020 waiting to be done. I bartered with a vw tranny specialist and got two fresh rebuilds in the exchange....one mentioned and waiting and one ready to be done when i get that 4.46 or better FD.

I agree on the 02A....but, I am not worthy.......i am not good enough yet.
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 25, 2014 01:13PM
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John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

.

The wait time all depends on Bilstein...
And I have been trying to get ahead to mitigate their really sporadic delievery time..
But people keep ordering stuff so i never have anything on the shelf.


However.. Of those 6 units i ordered before the boys had sent deposits, well first to the gate.
You send a deposit and they rathchet down the list.
You could get some of those..If they say "mid-November" and they follow thru, then maybe late Nov shipping from here.

All depend on things out of my hands...I could promise, like some do, but I won't.



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 25, 2014 03:59PM
john i might pick your brain about coilovers for my bilstein b36 struts
that i can late use on something better, when the budget allows



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 25, 2014 09:35PM
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john i might pick your brain about coilovers for my bilstein b36 struts
that i can late use on something better, when the budget allows

I've done a big number of Golves "rebuild, re-do" the short things that everybody starts with, and seems everybody is happy...spacers removed, re-fresh, new lower tubes, spring seats and mod the tops for better top mount..
Phone numbah is somewhere around..



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 26, 2014 07:26AM
sounds good

thank you



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 26, 2014 02:21PM
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As far as the 020, i am sticking with it for now since my kaaz diff is in it already and the box in general is in excellent shape. also, i have a fresh rebuilt 9A sitting in my garage and have another rebuild of an 020 waiting to be done. I bartered with a vw tranny specialist and got two fresh rebuilds in the exchange....one mentioned and waiting and one ready to be done when i get that 4.46 or better FD.
.

Do a search here. Someone posted up a 3-4-5 020 gearkit that turns an 020 with a factory 3.8ish final drive into a 115mph top speed close ratio box. Cheaper than any other gearset you can get and no need to buy a high (numeric) final drive setup that are naturally MORE fragile than the stock R&P.

Even with a 4.24 or 446 R&P, the drops between gears is awful. The 3-4-5 kit fixes all the drops and overall drive ratios except the 1-2 drop which is not much of a problem.



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
October 27, 2014 12:28PM
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As far as the 020, i am sticking with it for now since my kaaz diff is in it already and the box in general is in excellent shape. also, i have a fresh rebuilt 9A sitting in my garage and have another rebuild of an 020 waiting to be done. I bartered with a vw tranny specialist and got two fresh rebuilds in the exchange....one mentioned and waiting and one ready to be done when i get that 4.46 or better FD.
.

Do a search here. Someone posted up a 3-4-5 020 gearkit that turns an 020 with a factory 3.8ish final drive into a 115mph top speed close ratio box. Cheaper than any other gearset you can get and no need to buy a high (numeric) final drive setup that are naturally MORE fragile than the stock R&P.

Even with a 4.24 or 446 R&P, the drops between gears is awful. The 3-4-5 kit fixes all the drops and overall drive ratios except the 1-2 drop which is not much of a problem.

Thanks sir! I found it and am doing some investigation.

btw- I stopped in on eric langbein to talk cages etc and got a chance to look over both your cars.....inspiring to say the least. I'll probably be in touch at some point very soon to talk more if you are available. thanks again!
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
December 09, 2014 10:56AM
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ReluctantGolf
John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

.

The wait time all depends on Bilstein...
And I have been trying to get ahead to mitigate their really sporadic delievery time..
But people keep ordering stuff so i never have anything on the shelf.


However.. Of those 6 units i ordered before the boys had sent deposits, well first to the gate.
You send a deposit and they rathchet down the list.
You could get some of those..If they say "mid-November" and they follow thru, then maybe late Nov shipping from here.

All depend on things out of my hands...I could promise, like some do, but I won't.

John, are you around today to get on the horn for a "few minutes"..?? let me know if there is a better time during the day. Thanks!
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
December 09, 2014 11:11AM
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ReluctantGolf
John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

.

The wait time all depends on Bilstein...
And I have been trying to get ahead to mitigate their really sporadic delievery time..
But people keep ordering stuff so i never have anything on the shelf.


However.. Of those 6 units i ordered before the boys had sent deposits, well first to the gate.
You send a deposit and they rathchet down the list.
You could get some of those..If they say "mid-November" and they follow thru, then maybe late Nov shipping from here.

All depend on things out of my hands...I could promise, like some do, but I won't.

John, are you around today to get on the horn for a "few minutes"..?? let me know if there is a better time during the day. Thanks!

Here packing a set of Sentra struts I just finished top mounts for so call now.



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
January 13, 2015 03:20PM
John - checking in to see if you got something in the mail from me. I left a vmail and shot you an email or two as well.....I am looking forward to seeing those bad boys!

- Kevin
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
January 13, 2015 04:16PM
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John - checking in to see if you got something in the mail from me. I left a vmail and shot you an email or two as well.....I am looking forward to seeing those bad boys!

- Kevin

Oh yeah it arrive. stuff is ordered, bottom fronts are done...



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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
January 14, 2015 07:25AM
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John - checking in to see if you got something in the mail from me. I left a vmail and shot you an email or two as well.....I am looking forward to seeing those bad boys!

- Kevin

Oh yeah it arrive. stuff is ordered, bottom fronts are done...

SCHWEEEEEET!
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
January 17, 2015 03:35AM
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john vanlandingham
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ReluctantGolf
John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

.

The wait time all depends on Bilstein...
And I have been trying to get ahead to mitigate their really sporadic delievery time..
But people keep ordering stuff so i never have anything on the shelf.


However.. Of those 6 units i ordered before the boys had sent deposits, well first to the gate.
You send a deposit and they rathchet down the list.
You could get some of those..If they say "mid-November" and they follow thru, then maybe late Nov shipping from here.

All depend on things out of my hands...I could promise, like some do, but I won't.

John, are you around today to get on the horn for a "few minutes"..?? let me know if there is a better time during the day. Thanks!

Here packing a set of Sentra struts I just finished top mounts for so call now.

Ooh! Does this mean I get my spares you've owed me for the past 3 years?
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Re: Bilstein 46 mm Universal Rally Shocks
January 17, 2015 01:59PM
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john vanlandingham
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ReluctantGolf
John - after going "on the list" what is the wait time for a full set-up, all four corners with springs and those subaru top mounts?

.

The wait time all depends on Bilstein...
And I have been trying to get ahead to mitigate their really sporadic delievery time..
But people keep ordering stuff so i never have anything on the shelf.


However.. Of those 6 units i ordered before the boys had sent deposits, well first to the gate.
You send a deposit and they rathchet down the list.
You could get some of those..If they say "mid-November" and they follow thru, then maybe late Nov shipping from here.

All depend on things out of my hands...I could promise, like some do, but I won't.

John, are you around today to get on the horn for a "few minutes"..?? let me know if there is a better time during the day. Thanks!

Here packing a set of Sentra struts I just finished top mounts for so call now.

Ooh! Does this mean I get my spares you've owed me for the past 3 years?

Yes!

I even have a rear now that materialized out of nowhere..No idea just showed up a single one..



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