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New rear axle for my chase car

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Jon Rood
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
June 22, 2012 10:35AM
No pictures, but I got my 3rd member back from the mechanic on Monday. Wednesday I bought the new wheel bearing and inner seals (should they be called outer seals?). Last night I shortened the axles slightly, 1/8 to 3/16" even though they probably didn't need it. And this morning I brough the axles and bearings to work, so a guy back in the shop can take them home this weekend and press the new bearings and retains on.

-Jon
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
June 24, 2012 12:29AM
http://gearboxmagazine.com/2012/06/carlos-the-adventure-celica/

Fun article on the Celica and a bit about me.

-Jon
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 04, 2012 11:57PM
Big update of sorts. I got all except for the panhard bar bracket welded onto the axle housing. I still have to design and build that bracket. But all the Ballistic Fab brackets I had custom made worked out amazingly well. I should have the axle done and into the car by the end of this weekend, I'm hoping anyways. Then comes the interesting part, having a custom driveshaft built. I'm trying to decided, stick with the two piece set-up, which gives me a bit more ground clearance, or convert it to a one piece shaft, which simplifies things a bit, but might take a rock hit or two when trail driving..?

-Jon





And a big thanks to Ballistic Fab...

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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 05, 2012 11:00AM
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which reminds me, Alperti: where's your gawddam Toiletta halfshafts?

Are you doing some of those soon? I should send you mine so you can do them at the same time. I bought an astro van last week, and as soon as I finish changing the intake gaskets I'll drive it and start tearing apart my volvo.

Carl send them out and then do like in old cartoons: get a boxing glove and a big ass spring shove them into a box, taped it up and mail it to Alperti Kunkanen with a note stickied saying "Git On it".

See? When he opens it, he'll get the message.
...so I can do his same time



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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 09, 2012 10:31AM
The last bit of fabrication done, the Uber strong panhard bar mount...

-Jon



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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 09, 2012 12:11PM
Yeah.
Über über.



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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 09, 2012 12:47PM
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Yeah.
Über über.
It needed the european strength, when it's leaning on 27" tall tires every corner...
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 09, 2012 01:37PM
Holy beeftacular mount!

You'll bend the boulder before that thing shifts.



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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 09, 2012 10:33PM
Two piece driveline = one more ujoint/failure point. Pillow block and mount to deal with and a slip joint on the back half. Slightly longer time to change out trans/clutch. Ultimately you still have the a chance of rock damage either way.

I'd guess some of it would depend on how much travel the rear axle has and how the driveline/transmission will deal with the compression/extension of the driveline.
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 10, 2012 10:18AM
Yeah, tough call, but not too tough at this point. When I first built the car, super soft suspension, it was great at rock crawling. Now, with the stiffer suspesion, it's only fair at rock crawling and more suited to high speed driving, like a rally car. So, a 1 piece shaft will probably be the easiest, cheapest, most trouble free solution at this point. If that .5% of the time I do have to rock crawl, and I hit the driveshaft with rocks, then I'll reconsider at that time whether or not to change back to a 2 piece.

-Jon
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 11, 2012 08:22PM
And a fresh coat of OEM style satin black to make it look like Toyota might just have made the axle this way, just for me...

-Jon


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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 11, 2012 09:06PM
Jon did you notice any "pulling " or tweaking in the tubes when you were done zotting on all the brackets and mountie bits?



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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 12, 2012 12:47AM
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Jon did you notice any "pulling " or tweaking in the tubes when you were done zotting on all the brackets and mountie bits?

I was going to ask about a truss also. JV has had some good pics in the past.
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 12, 2012 09:57AM
No, nothing I can see at all. If you dig back into my cars build history, the first axle got a 2" tall truss welded nearly the whole length of it, like a trophy truck. That axle had no chamber of toe issues at all. 6-7K miles on it, no funny handling, no funny tire wear. The housing seems to be thick enough and the weld areas spread far enough apart, that it's just not moving the metal around. I tend to weld up the brackets in stages too, giving some cooling time before I put TOO much heat in one area.
Can't wait to get this in the car, and back in the dirt for testing!!

-Jon
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Re: New rear axle for my chase car
July 16, 2012 09:56AM
From this -


To this -


in just a few HOT hours of work. I got the car loaded up on the trailer and ready to take to the driveshaft shop.

-Jon
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