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911 Carrera RallyCross Project

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Paul Eddleston
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 06, 2013 07:06AM
Finally got the car out now all the salt has washed off the roads.

So, I drove all three of these today, not at the same time, and, after pondering over a cup of tea I think I have concluded that, at least on the street, I prefer to drive the Quattro!





Here's some pictures of the meet we took the cars too:









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Paul Eddleston
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 06:43AM
Mud flaps are essential for Rally Bling. They also help keep stone chips at bay. We normally use Rally Armor Urethane in red but recently discovered these light and cheaper offerings from Sparco so we thought we'd try them out. So, how to mount them? On previous projects we have drilled holes in the fender flanges and inner fender wells but the 911's fender flanges are kind of thin. Might have to get creative. The right side should be easy as we already have flat aluminium surface protecting the oil lines:






but the left side might be more difficult:




However, after offering up the mud flaps it was obvious that a few strategically placed aluminium brackets attached to existing fasteners would provide the necessary support. The fronts would just require drilling into the inner footwell and rocker panel end caps:





The top bolt is clamping the fender flange between two large washers. We will probably replace them with even larger ones in the future though.


I have always found it tricky to get mud flaps vertical, even heights and roughly in the center of the tire. I think this one worked out pretty well first attempt though they may need raising at some point.







Paul Eddleston
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 11:14AM
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 11:28AM
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

They're noisy, too... I like rubber or the translucent "anti-glare" welding curtain stuff.
Durable and quiet.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 11:36AM
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john vanlandingham
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

They're noisy, too... I like rubber or the translucent "anti-glare" welding curtain stuff.
Durable and quiet.

I ordered up a set of truck mudflaps from Ryder trucks. They were ~$20 per flap...but large enough that I could make 4 flaps for the BMW out of just one truck flap. Tough as nails and I've run into hard as concrete snow banks at 10 below and they haven't shattered. Can get them in white too!

Dave
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 11:43AM
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DaveK
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john vanlandingham
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

They're noisy, too... I like rubber or the translucent "anti-glare" welding curtain stuff.
Durable and quiet.

I ordered up a set of truck mudflaps from Ryder trucks. They were ~$20 per flap...but large enough that I could make 4 flaps for the BMW out of just one truck flap. Tough as nails and I've run into hard as concrete snow banks at 10 below and they haven't shattered. Can get them in white too!

Dave

Luckily years ago when we were out 2-3 times a month racking up hundreds of practices miles, we all happened to find a number of truck mud-flaps by the side of the roads, so we all had free mudflaps for years...
We made some nice big ones...didn't last so well with the PNW volcanic rock, but the cost was nothin.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 03:01PM
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

Is this from experience Dave? TRF used them at Sno*Drift this year.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 04:16PM
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BRAIDusa
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

Is this from experience Dave? TRF used them at Sno*Drift this year.

I use them a number of years ago on my 323 GTX and they did not last long.
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 05:27PM
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DaveK
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BRAIDusa
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DaveK
Make templates of those if you get a chance so you can make copies with a more durable material down the road - the first time you use the car when temps are below 50 degrees they will get blown apart...fronts might be just fine, but the rears won't last.

Dave

Is this from experience Dave? TRF used them at Sno*Drift this year.

I use them a number of years ago on my 323 GTX and they did not last long.

specially at low temps...sad smiley



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 10, 2013 11:16PM
Interesting. Let's see how they do.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 11, 2013 07:46AM
I've used conveyor belt material for other projects and it should work well for
mud flaps. Tough, flexible and cheap (free) if it's used. Check your local industrial park
for a supplier.
JT
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Paul Eddleston
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 11, 2013 07:34PM
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MrToad
I've used conveyor belt material for other projects and it should work well for
mud flaps. Tough, flexible and cheap (free) if it's used. Check your local industrial park
for a supplier.
JT

As a retailer of automotive performance parts I don't think I can condone these creative mud flap material ideas.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 11, 2013 08:25PM
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BRAIDusa
As a retailer of automotive performance parts I don't think I can condone these creative mud flap material ideas.
Of course. May the Schwartz be with you.



Seriously, a silk-screened logo would work with anything you use.
JT
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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 13, 2013 07:35AM
This weekend we put some new rally rubber on a set of BRAID Winrace TA wheels and mounted them on the car. Tires are used Michelin gravels, 205/65-15 rear and 175/70-15 front. The wheels are also drilled for BMW. (one never knows). Now we have two sets of RallyCross wheels for the car. A set for dry and a set for mud which also work in snow,










We also mounted our autocross and track day tires on some BRAID BZ wheels. Tires are the new BFG Rival which, by all accounts are incredible. 205/50-15 in the front and 225/45-15 in the rear. Wheels are 7x15, ET23 front, 8x15, ET10 rear. Not as much rubber as some are running but we went with lightness and low rolling diameter rather than ultimate grip. Still, 225 is not too shabby for a 230hp, 2700lb car.





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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
May 15, 2013 10:16PM
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Rally X is the best way to get that poor Porcshe into a junk yard, just MHO. carry on.

911s never die. They just get sold to somebody else who welds rust for 6 years then sells it to somebody else ad infintum


This is HILARIOUS but TRUE
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