Sentra SE-R halfshaft sscrewiness maybe?

Hey Comrades, I have a tavarich in Corn-yeti-cult some of you guys know, a good guy with Sentra SE-r, Gustavo Garrido and he has goten some Soooper Bitchin Suspenders and everytghing seems hunky-dory in the rear but in the front there seems to be some bad ass binding somewhere..

I just walked him thru the check off to make sure it's not bind in the Soooper Bitchin struts, the insert plunges when its out of the lower tube, the whole thing plunges when assembles and in you hand, so its not some strut binding...
But assembled it wont hardly budge....

I got to thinking...yes a terrible thing, and I do try to avoid it as much as I can but I'm kinda stuck.
I just looked here:
http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1998-nissan-sentra_front-drive-shaft-ff-391-882_2.html
and confirmed the inner drive on the diff side is a PLUNGING Tripode bearing like this--as far as I can tell


Anybody can confirm that? What I's stinkin is maybe the roller got dislodged when the struts were off and the roller is down the bore and preventing the axle from plunging...

Anybody know what's inboard before I suggest he peels the boots back and get all greasy and disgusting?

I know on later Saabs I knocked one off once and the axle would go in, but I don't fuck wif Japonaise stuff hardly so wondering...

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Isn't Gustavo's car a 1992 or so?

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Isn't Gustavo's car a 1992 or so?

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Is it different?


You know what they say "all those japanese driveshafts all look the same to meeze"

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2013 11:42PM by john vanlandingham.

I cant remember. We dropped a tripod bearing in something Japanese a couple weeks ago taking it out. Stupid design...

Is there a binding problem on both sides or just one? Are they equal length driveshafts? If they are not equal length then the short shaft will have more angle on it for the same droop and thus cant the inner cv more. Possibly causing a bind.

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Disappointingly not yet a Jackass

it looks like the 6 ball bearings with a cage style from the diagram

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it looks like the 6 ball bearings with a cage style from the diagram

39126A looks an awful lot like tri-pode bearing thang.., inner CVs are almost always bolted on like VW, Audi, BMW, Ford (all of which use primarily 2 bolt circles).

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it looks like the 6 ball bearings with a cage style from the diagram

39126A looks an awful lot like tri-pode bearing thang.., inner CVs are almost always bolted on like VW, Audi, BMW, Ford (all of which use primarily 2 bolt circles).

yes sir you are correct, but 39125 looks like the rzeppa guy... i assume the diagrams are from different gens?

also the inner front cv's on my celica alltrac are rzeppa and the rear ones are the tripod guys

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2013 10:10AM by 90Alltrac.

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it looks like the 6 ball bearings with a cage style from the diagram

39126A looks an awful lot like tri-pode bearing thang.., inner CVs are almost always bolted on like VW, Audi, BMW, Ford (all of which use primarily 2 bolt circles).

yes sir you are correct, but 39125 looks like the rzeppa guy... i assume the diagrams are from different gens?

also the inner front cv's on my celica alltrac are rzeppa and the rear ones are the tripod guys

No the damn drawinga are left and right...note one has an arrow ---> diff side and the other has an arrow ---->wheel side..


The main idea was asking if anybody had any experience bumping them and losing the roller thing all under the boot... cause Gustavo's suspension wont compress. And we know its not the struts binding..

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sorry i meant 39126...fark

the reason i was trying to see if it was tripod or rzeppa was that the rzeppa when pulled out just ever slightly too far can jam up

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sorry i meant 39126...fark

the reason i was trying to see if it was tripod or rzeppa was that the rzeppa when pulled out just ever slightly too far can jam up

Well that's what we don't know: did the whole weight of the upright/hubs/brakes pull on the axle assembly and pull the guts out some...


Man it's a pisser when I don't have things in my hands..

I thin I should suggest he pulls the strut off and jack the whole control arm and all the hub/brakes crap up and feel for bind with nothing.

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Do these struts have more extension than stock?
1) Enough compliance in the strut top to allow the angles to change? Srtu rod bonding?
2) Maybe the cups are not deep enough (like the nice deep Saab ones) and the bearing pulled part way out and jammed, cocked, on the cup edge, with a longer than stock extension in the strut.
I imagine Gus has the early 90's SE-R; that is waht he had before.
Gus, time to pull back the boots IMO.

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Do these struts have more extension than stock?
1) Enough compliance in the strut top to allow the angles to change? Srtu rod bonding?
2) Maybe the cups are not deep enough (like the nice deep Saab ones) and the bearing pulled part way out and jammed, cocked, on the cup edge, with a longer than stock extension in the strut.
I imagine Gus has the early 90's SE-R; that is waht he had before.
Gus, time to pull back the boots IMO.

Yeah they have about 30mm more OAL...

And yeah its a slimey job but I stink you're right, time to peel 'em back and look.

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I asked around but the people I know that used to have a Sentra SER didn't know.
Didya ask any of the Himes boys?
What about Hanka or whatever the guys name in the midwest that had one they rolled at Rally Colorado back in 2005 during the year of the rolls (6 cars written off including Pastrana's big one) and have since built a new one using those old parts?
Didn't the Tabors used to have one of these cars too?

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Grant Hughes

If it ultimately is the halfshafts pulling apart, it might be smarter/quicker to move the strut tops up by modding the strut towers or making an adapter. If I ever get to work on the Starion again, I'll be doing the same with the new longer struts from John; I kinda expected I might have to but planned to do it after I got them in and checked with the approx 1" longer length. Got it planned out. (Never knew I would be so long from any car work.) If that is a possible thing to do, if Gus could posted some pic of the strut towers and tops, it would help. I expect he is trying to get ready for Sandblast which is just over 5 weeks away.