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240 build for stage rally

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Justin Mason
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Volvo 240


240 build for stage rally
August 11, 2013 01:37PM
Hi, my name is Justin. I just bought a 1990 Volvo 240 5spd last week and I'm in the process of gutting it to seam weld and build the roll cage. I'm new to this and looking for any tips and tricks anyone wants to share. I work on cars for a living and have a background in welding and fabrication, but I've never built a rally car. I have no background in racing at all, but I've always wanted to try it.

I'd like to have the car ready for testing by the first of the year and start with 100 acre wood in 2014. I work on the car before and after work. The guys I work for at KCAutosport are kind enough to let me use the shop and work on the car when we aren't busy. Besides gutting the car and starting on the roll cage, John Vanlandingham is fabricating the coilovers. He's been really helpful and is patient in answering all of my noob questions.

Here a couple of pictures of the build so far. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I'd appreciate them! Nice to meet you all!
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 11, 2013 02:14PM
right on, looks like you are on the right track.

one suggestion, put the main hoop as far back as you can, maybe even up on the "shelf" (under rear seat) rather than the floor, especially if you are 6' tall or more.
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 11, 2013 04:39PM
Welcome aboard car looks good so far, this is what I initially was looking for when I ended up with my 242 that I too am in the process of building just not for stage rally sad smiley can't wait to watch the progress of this.
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 11, 2013 10:00PM
Shit the fuck yeah! grinning smiley



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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 11, 2013 11:58PM
No way!!! I've got a 89 240 sedan 5 speed in the exact same colour haha. Im envious of your lack of speed divots though! Looking forward to progress! This makes me think I should really update my build confused smiley
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 12, 2013 02:29AM
I've always had a thing for 240s.
I've owned two and sold Volvos new in the mid/late 80s. Had one just like this as a damagestrator. Best looking front end of all the 240s I think! cool smiley



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Justin Mason
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 12, 2013 08:44PM
I think i will install the main hoop about 6'' behind the B pillar.
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Justin Mason
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 12, 2013 08:57PM
Removed the dash and all of the heating/cooling crap. Also, making good progress on thinning out the wiring harness.
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 13, 2013 06:30AM
I have the same rat-nest pile with obnoxious rubber putty all over it as you have!

Want more?



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Justin Mason
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 15, 2013 08:16PM
Update on Progress: I removed the sunroof cassette, which was a bigger pain in the ass than I thought it would be. It was welded and glued around the perimeter and it was welded around the opening so it had to be cut out. Reinforcement was removed from the skin and tack welded in. I also removed the front bumper supports and cut out the radiator supports and now I'm ready to remove the engine.
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
August 17, 2013 09:11AM
As you've now realized it is easier to re-skin a sun-roof car then remove the sun-roof, weld it up and make it look nice.



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Justin Mason
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Volvo 240


Re: 240 build for stage rally
September 02, 2013 11:25AM
Found a toyota 4runner axle at the junkyard. It came with 4.56 gear and open diff. I will use the 4.56 gears but not sure if i should weld the spider gears or try to find a good clutch type diff.

Cut slots in the floor pan for the 4-link setup. I'm thinking about using 1/2 inch heim joints 3/4 inch .120 wall tube for the 4-link and 3/4 inch heim joints 1 inch .120 wall tube for the panhard rod. Does that sound sufficient?
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
September 02, 2013 11:36AM
Quickly: I like 3/4 heim and listen: you oughtta make the slot AFTER you have the rod end or bush or whatever for that end of the upper link...
And i mage my stainless spacers at some common size..
Next, we found in a real live CAD dealio that we could move around a axle and shafts and links that in the FULL UP on the one side, and FULL DROOP on the other, the links will contact the sides of the boxes, so we made the boxes taper somewhat..


NEXT!!!! Somebody else has just UPSed me their axle shafts to carve up and mod..
You might ponder the cost versus the convenience--cause doing 4 isn't that much more bother than 2... but think kind fast..

ALSO!
I have to order him some links, and some here to make up for those I robbed, you want to go along with THAT order? Links are around $14-15 each, rod ends around $16-17, stainless spacers we'll see.



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Justin Mason
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Location: Gladstone, Missouri
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Volvo 240


Re: 240 build for stage rally
September 02, 2013 12:06PM
I shipped the axles out to you on friday, so they should be there sometime this week. I have have everything i need to make the links.
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Re: 240 build for stage rally
September 02, 2013 12:18PM
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I shipped the axles out to you on friday, so they should be there sometime this week. I have have everything i need to make the links.

OK I got the email, less hope that this guy jumps on it cause setting up to do the bolt circles is kinda nicer to do a few at one go..



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