Mk4 VW suspension thoughts
Posted by Grantmac
Haggis Muncher Super Moderator Location: Haggisland UK Join Date: 01/04/2013 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 409 Rally Car: VWs (for my sins) |
Piddly TDI stuff! ha ha, that could be it, may be you only get the larger engined cars over there then, have you measured the smaller 1.4 and 1.6 petrol models, or the 1.9 SDI. There is definitely more than one strut diameter so only pointed it out in case others are reading in. What you gonna do at the rear with it's separate springs and shocks? I can't believe nobody has suggested scrapping that old VW and just getting a new Fiesta....  Disappointingly not yet a Jackass |
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John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Danny me boyo dis is America, we only do the biggest motor. Only..whatever it is.. Remember: bigger is always better. Andas for your cynical poking fun at my friend well here's the thing: dis galoot said he's just wanting blaze around on back roads up there in Canada where he lives---and its a veritable paradise for a gravel perv-- but he din't say he wanted to rally. See? Obviously to use the quote "nobody wants to see rusty ol beater Golves" but this boy wants to just blaze around---so we don't need to explain why he should dump the car and buy a new Fiesta that has been smacked hard for 10 THOUSAND bucks---to impress others. Got it? Righty right then. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Haggis Muncher Super Moderator Location: Haggisland UK Join Date: 01/04/2013 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 409 Rally Car: VWs (for my sins) |
Grant MacDonald sounds like a fine Scottish name so I am sure he will be robust enough to deal with the Fiesta gag. And he lives in British Columbia (is that the place where they produce all the cocaine but each line is served with a nice cup of tea and scone with clotted cream and jam.)
I see no mention of da US of A so considered they may have cars there with smaller engines to carbon offset their nations tar sands endeavours.... As this car is not going to be a full on rally car, I merely tried to point out that there may be OEM options that could be utilised to lift the car depending on what the vehicle spec is to start with. GTDIs can come with lower suspension and big wheels, So changing them out for smaller wheels with taller tyres, and bolting on some struts from a different model could have got him in the ballpark, and the cash saved could be put towards the steel sump that Josh wisely suggests. Anyway all the recent Fiesta hype and chat seems to have stopped so that's old news, I am jumping back on the Escort mk2 bandwagon now as I assist my mate with his bitchin Kawasaki Green car.  Disappointingly not yet a Jackass Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/2013 10:16AM by danster. |
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This post is useless wifout pitchers! John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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Now this is what I'm talking bout! Thanks John and Grant! I have a new found respect for what John does but I still love people trying to do it themselves
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Grant MacDonald Junior Moderator Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: 12/15/2013 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 18 Rally Car: None |
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What are the top pin dimensions for the mk4? Could you use a mk2/3 insert in a custom housing? How about a picture of a stock strut and insert? I made my own ghetto coil-overs because I'm near broke most of the time, and I also like to make things. The coil-over sleeve sits on the bracket that holds the knuckle/upright. The sleeves are about $40/ea. 
Someday I'll pull my inserts out and measure them, then call John so I can get them extended. Or.... I can pull them apart myself  Muahahaha!
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John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Whaddya broke for? Those are the ever so annoying things that I've re-done for the poooooor bastids that get told that's the way to do it. Long lower slider/tube, 160mm travel, valved 300/100, and the wasteful locating register that burns up overall length. Its a start, and its what you have.. Now Grant here keeps referring to some other stuff which I think is the junk like this: 
That's what I think he's trying to say they go in a normal "wet' ---whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean---tube. Those are the same basic insert 40mm---and in most applications valved utterly wimp-u-larly lame.... Problem is that standard tube have a wall thickness like cheesoid exhaust tubing and are mildly put "noodly" Can you say "bind" and "Bend"? Second problem with those this is the rod is threaded only about 12mm..It threads into a bottom part like this:  and center punched twice to lock them in, big pain in the ass...
The things YOU have Robert, like the custom ones I supply have the rod threaded about 18-19mm so we can thread it thru the bottom---about 10mm thick---the run a jam nut down on the protruding end to lock the insert in. So we can salvage something there (hack the ears and the bottom off, double the stingy 18mm tall bearings) shorten tube, re-do the insert pin to save maybe 15-19mm LOA Grant, considering that Bilstein makes maybe 8000-9000 part numbers with a million detail differences and 8000 valving and length options--- serious what the hell you think that you are going to figure out? WHO lists any meaningful data on their stuff? Link or it didn't happen. I know a little info here and there but are you "effluent" in technical German and/or Swedish? noch, junge , bist du? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Grant MacDonald Junior Moderator Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: 12/15/2013 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 18 Rally Car: None |
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