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Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX

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Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 21, 2011 10:34PM
Hello, we are Finnish Fury Rallysport.

We are a up and coming rally team based out of Duluth, MN. We started campaigning our 1991 Nissan 240SX Group 2 car in early 2011. Our first year was mainly a testing grounds to get the car sorted.

I built the car myself from the ground up with a little help from some of my friends, who have also been acting as my crew for 2011. I started the build up in October of 2009.

Check us out on FaceBook. Finnish Fury Rallysport

The full build of the car is detailed here: The 240SX rally car

Here is a short video with some build photos, and in car video.











My name is Ian, I am the car owner and driver. As of now I do not have a set co-driver, but may for next season depending on how things go. My focus for next season, is Max Attach. The car is currently Group 2, and will stay that way for at least a year, although I have entertained the idea of upping to Group 5.

Some of the other team members are Cale Isaacs, and Broc Nelson. Both have acted as crew, but Cale is looking to get into the car any way he can. His long term goals include building a car of his own.

I first got into rally in the mid 90s when my cousin Eric Seppanen was racing his Production Sentra SE-R, which he later sold to Jake Himes. I worked service for both teams, and in later years helped out Dan Adamson as crew. I have also marshalled many times. I am looking forward to getting to know more and more rally people over the next few years.

Its time to bring Real Wheel Drive back to the rally world.



I Seppanen, Car #240
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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 24, 2011 01:26PM
Hej Poiki,
Good to see another ralli-240 even if its the wrong 240; but it's better a 240 than the other 240


we should talk about making your suspenders more ralli-worthy.

You already have Bilstein inserts, what you need now are nice chrome-moly tube---and ears of course...and springs with enough travel and need something better in the rear

Can you read off all the stuff stamped into the top of the insert?



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 24, 2011 07:40PM
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john vanlandingham
Hej Poiki,
Good to see another ralli-240 even if its the wrong 240; but it's better a 240 than the other 240


we should talk about making your suspenders more ralli-worthy.

You already have Bilstein inserts, what you need now are nice chrome-moly tube---and ears of course...and springs with enough travel and need something better in the rear

Can you read off all the stuff stamped into the top of the insert?

You sir may have just opened a door you may wish do unopen. I apologize in advance for the barage of stupid questions, brain dumps, and otherwise silly suspension info I will inevitably throw at you.

Just by that post I can tell that you are the fabled suspension guru I seek.

I am currently at work posting from my phone and the suspension is still in the car, so I cannot get the numbers off the dampers, but I can tell you what they were spec'd for.

How much did you read about my suspension? You seem to know more about it then I expected.

Here is what I think needs to happen to make it better. I stress think because I really only know enough about this stuff to be dangerous, but im learning.

I have enough height, but could use more travel, although I know I am not using the travel I have properly. I think I need a more non linear dampening profile. Shot in the dark I think I need more rebound dampening, and less high speed bound dampening.

I also think I might need slightly softer springs. The car seems to land well off jumps, I have not had any issues with it kicking or twisting. Just a little bounce off the bigger stuff.

I also think helper springs would be a nice addition, because I have very little droop travel and I can tell that it is easy to get the car light, and traction drops off quickly in those situations.

I also need to work on my alignment settings. Currently it is very conservative. Very little negative camber all around, a bit of toe in on the rear, and near neutral toe on the front.

Beefing up the tubes and ears is something I know needs doing. I also need to rethink the front top mounts. The actual mount plates look like dinner plates. The bearings are all steel and seem fine, but the mount plate is aluminium. Might just make something out of steel, they don't need to be pretty. That's it for now, will think of more I am sure.

Glad to hear a different answer then buy hotbits.
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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 30, 2011 04:51PM
That's unlike any 240SX I've ever seen...

Most of 'em round these parts are HellaSlammed with Mad Toit Poke yo!

Carry on! Sweet rally rat!
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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 30, 2011 06:11PM
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That's unlike any 240SX I've ever seen...

Most of 'em round these parts are HellaSlammed with Mad Toit Poke yo!

Carry on! Sweet rally rat!

And it is a 240! Lessee 240 Volvo = cool
240 Nissan....cool
240 Mercedes.......clack clack clack clack (cough! Gasp!) uh not cool



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
April 23, 2012 07:04PM
Sure wish I had an address to send these parts to.



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
April 23, 2012 10:16PM
They're on the way:




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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
May 01, 2012 01:44PM
what is that little nipple thing at the bottom of the rears



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
May 01, 2012 01:52PM
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what is that little nipple thing at the bottom of the rears

it's a little nipple thing.
aka schrader valve for charging the gas.

When I order the shock with the schrader valve, they assemble them to order and i can specify the bearings I want---15mm so we can use the nice stainless spacers i make---and the valving, and like for Xratties I can say "minus 1 inch"...
On custom applications where we're adding towers, then we can accomodate the full length, so full length but I still want the 15mm bearings and the specific valving so I go "s".



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 11, 2012 06:37PM
Awesome!
All my life, i saw the s13 as a drift car

Its nice to see it also in this field of motorsports.

So sick thumbs up smiley
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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
October 11, 2012 08:10PM
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Awesome!
All my life, i saw the s13 as a drift car

Its nice to see it also in this field of motorsports.

So sick thumbs up smiley

Keep looking and you'll see the crew of Martin Walter and Freddie Truatmanndofrenbacherstein from up in Ontario..
Stock SR20DET motor, a little T3 and good suspension.. Years of a laugh a minute.

Around these parts it seems the majority have been finally gravitating towards simple solid RWD cars, and finally, for the same reasons that guys where rally has thousands of participants: they fun and easy to upgrade into relaible cars, and that means more time holding on to one car, and more time IN the car.



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Re: Finnish Fury Rallysport, Nissan 240SX
May 22, 2014 05:42PM
I just have to say this to the jab at the good old mercedes 240D.



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