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Clutch type lsd, which brand?

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Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 12:47PM
Long past time to put a lsd in the honda. Seems if you want a clutch type its Cusco, Kaaz or Carbonetic. Is one brand better supported than the other?
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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 02:10PM
Kaaz "has" a US presence but it seems any parts still need to come from Japan.
Haven't looked too hard, but it seemed like a lot of Cusco's catalog has to be imported.
No idea on Carbonetic.

Doesn't Wavetrac make a diff for the hondas?

I have one of the MFactory clutch units for my "new" car - I haven't used it, but initial reviews of 'em seem to be promising. (MFactory does use a bunch of little coil springs, instead of a belleville washer like Kaaz etc. Cusco offers both designs...)

If I was buying new, I'd probably be importing a Gripper from the UK.



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 02:59PM
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Kaaz "has" a US presence but it seems any parts still need to come from Japan.
Haven't looked too hard, but it seemed like a lot of Cusco's catalog has to be imported.
No idea on Carbonetic.

Doesn't Wavetrac make a diff for the hondas?

I have one of the MFactory clutch units for my "new" car - I haven't used it, but initial reviews of 'em seem to be promising. (MFactory does use a bunch of little coil springs, instead of a belleville washer like Kaaz etc. Cusco offers both designs...)

If I was buying new, I'd probably be importing a Gripper from the UK.

Agree on the Gripper..

And Kaaz, heard detailed terrible things if you need anything other than a clutch pack set...more than once..."We only sell complete units"



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 03:37PM
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And Kaaz, heard detailed terrible things if you need anything other than a clutch pack set...more than once..."We only sell complete units"

My interactions w/ Kaaz USA (2010/2011 timeframe) have been pretty good - reasonably quick responses via email to a tech question, and reasonably quick replacement part from Japan, particularly considering I contacted them the day the big tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami) happened.

$125 for a new speedometer gear hurt a bit though...



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 05:26PM
I thought you wanted a Detroit Locker.
I feel like someone, maybe Dave Kern or Jon Burke, had bad luck with Carbonetic.
http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,34956



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 12, 2014 05:26PM
Now that I think more on it, I think Dave blew up a Carbonetic rear in the Evo in short order. Put a stock one back in and that lasted for a few years as I recall.



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 13, 2014 07:54AM
I've also been happy with Gripper's support. I ordered a clutch pack from them after a shaft sheared off inside the diff, and they sent me an updated cross-pin with a beefier middle free of charge after noticing mine had an older cross-pin. I'm not sure performance wise how they compare to others, but I think it's a decent diff.
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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 13, 2014 08:14PM
Thanks guys, this is the kind of info I was looking for!



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 13, 2014 09:45PM
Eric, are you still keeping the car 4wd? B-series stuff, right? Is it a safe bet that the front diff is probably the same as one of the FWD diffs?



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Re: Clutch type lsd, which brand?
November 13, 2014 11:02PM
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Eric, are you still keeping the car 4wd? B-series stuff, right? Is it a safe bet that the front diff is probably the same as one of the FWD diffs?

Yup staying 4wd with the B-series, however the diff in the CRV trans is closer to the H/F series diff. Takes a bit of machining to accomplish. Checked out Gripper and they don't have an H/F option unfortunately.



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