john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Gravity Fed Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > is that an oil cooler hiding in the spoiler? Yep. And notice those rear calipers? > > ------------- > "The beatings will continue until moral improves" John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Junior Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
im curious how they work the oil system. Im going to guess it was a dry sump.
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Dazed_Driver Banned Senior Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
john vanlandingham Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Gravity Fed Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > is that an oil cooler hiding in the spoiler? > > Yep. > And notice those rear calipers? > > > > ------------- > > "The beatings will continue until moral > improves" > > > > > John Vanlandingham > Sleezattle, WA, USA > > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat > > www.jvab.f4.ca Front calipers on the back? Or that they're "backwards?" Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Junior Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Gravity Fed Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > those certainly are not an oem caliper of rx7 > origin. > > ------------- > "The beatings will continue until moral improves" The are without a doubt an AP with 4 x 1.25" pistons. point is some pretty big calipers--even if the pistons are't so big---with big pads on the rear of what is a pretty mundane spec car. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
derek Derek Bottles Mod Moderator Location: Lopez Island/ Seattle WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 853 Rally Car: Past: 323, RX2, GTI. Next up M3 ? |
IE someone at Mazda understood that to drive really fast one needs really good brakes even if there is not much power, low traction and simple spec.
As I like to say when I drove in Gp2, sure they may have AWD but we all have 4 wheel brake and Gp2 cars are lighter. A Subaru will accelerate faster but a Golf will slow down quicker. Here is to slowing down quickly at the last possible moment ![]() Derek In the long run reality always wins. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Senior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
derek Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > IE someone at Mazda understood that to drive > really fast one needs really good brakes even if > there is not much power, low traction and simple > spec. > > As I like to say when I drove in Gp2, sure they > may have AWD but we all have 4 wheel brake and Gp2 > cars are lighter. A Subaru will accelerate faster > but a Golf will slow down quicker. > > Here is to slowing down quickly at the last > possible moment Wink wink, nudge nudge. A wink's as good as a nod to a blind horse, eh? Know what I mean , eh KNOW WHAT I MEAN???? > > Derek > > > > See me go at: > www.11tenths.com > In the long run Reality always wins. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
eyesoreracing Dave Coleman Super Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 05/13/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 448 Rally Car: Mazda3, SE-R Spec-V, 510 |
Gravity Fed Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > im curious how they work the oil system. I'm going > to guess it was a dry sump. > > ------------- > "The beatings will continue until moral improves" Oil lines come out of the engine in the normal spot, so I'm calling no on the dry sump. The only reason to dry sump a rotary would be to lower it in the car (There aren't really many windage losses in a rotary), and since that would drag the transmission down with it, that doesn't seem practical on a car of this technological crudity. -D Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2009 12:32AM by eyesoreracing. |
Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Junior Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
then there has to be some form of pump(s) inline to the coolant. I believe i see some type of recovery take in the hatch area as well.
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Pete Pete Remner Elite Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
Actually, while the image angle is bad, the oil line coming out of the front cover is coming out at an odd angle. I wonder if it is the MFR drysump system.
No windage isn't TOO much of a problem but the stock oil pump setup sucks rocks. Or specifically it sucks air, it's hard to get oil all the way to the back (front) of the pump so it ends up cavitating a fair bit. Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. |
eyesoreracing Dave Coleman Super Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 05/13/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 448 Rally Car: Mazda3, SE-R Spec-V, 510 |
Actually, looking again, only one of the normal oil lines is there. There should be one off the rear housing that's missing. Instead there's that can next to the radiator with a high pressure line coming in and a hose coming out and dumping into the engine where the oil filler cap should be.
Not a dry sump, but hardly a stock system either. -D |
eyesoreracing Dave Coleman Super Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 05/13/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 448 Rally Car: Mazda3, SE-R Spec-V, 510 |
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Robin Fleguel Robin Fleguel Mega Moderator Location: Orillia, ON, Canaduh Join Date: 02/21/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 23 Rally Car: Stanley Steamer |
hudson Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Dude is my hero. > > Love limestone and love group b shit > > FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MAKE NEGATIVES of all those > flares! > > Cheers > > Andrew McNally > Hamilton, ON > 29 A guy in Norway who used to be a mech. on one of the GrB cars got his hands on the body parts for his track car and was going to make molds - lengthy build thread: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=695029 Robin (in the throes of rebuilding his G2 RX7) |
Pete Pete Remner Elite Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
eyesoreracing Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Scratch that. I squinted some more, and now I > think I see an oil line running under the rear > spark plugs. Three oil lines? Now I'm confused... > > And while we're squinting, where the hell is the > skidplate? The big fat hose coming from the top of the engine is the breather hose. It's going to a catchcan. Blowby is a big problem with high performance rotaries. The idea is that a big fat hose will have a lower velocity of airflow than a smaller hose, so it will be less likely to pull oil through. I have a 5/16" hose leading into a (cough ahem) modified 20oz Pepsi bottle ziptied to the master cylinder, and I have to empty it out fairly often. (I needed to solve a problem in the space of 5 minutes, and temporary fixes have a habit of becoming permanent.) This in combination with the oil filling with gasoline to the point where it gets to be a quart overfull after a month of driving and 1-2 rallycrosses, and is thus due for another change... I hear that for the old GTU effort, they concocted a way of rapidly changing the oil during pit stops. When you're relying on the oil wedge to keep the rotors from hitting the side housings, oil pressure and viscosity become critical. I think finally paying attention to that is how I'm able to wing it up close to 5-digit territory on a regular basis, without ending up with a bucket of parts. Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2009 06:55PM by Pete. |
eyesoreracing Dave Coleman Super Moderator Location: Long Beach, CA Join Date: 05/13/2007 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 448 Rally Car: Mazda3, SE-R Spec-V, 510 |
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