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Jesus, that's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing that the gears are or are not smaller. I'm saying that when that specific tranny is paired with the 165 hp N/A engine, I've never ever heard of one going. I'm not a mechanic nor have I been Pat Richard's crew person. Like you said, Pat's not exactly nice to cars.

gilbrock Wrote:
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> Jesus, that's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing
> that the gears are or are not smaller. I'm saying
> that when that specific tranny is paired with the
> 165 hp N/A engine, I've never ever heard of one
> going. I'm not a mechanic nor have I been Pat
> Richard's crew person.[u/] Like you said, Pat's not
> exactly nice to cars.
>
Hey Eli, you really ought to realise that just because you haven't seen something, and more broadly done, or know something, doesn't mean much.

If I thought there was a chance of it happening I might suggest you could learn a lot by shutting the fuck up and listening, but your consistantly argumentitive TONE, and outright telling people to shut up, and your ridiculing of others, ME INCLUDED, who have actually worked on race shit for longer than you've been alive sorta indicates that you suffer from that common SoCal delusion of knowing EVERYTHING.

I mean you're arguing with Dave and I would venture a bet you have never touched the inside of a single transmission, am I right?

When you don't know jack shit you would appear less of an arrogant jerk if you tried POSING QUESTIONS like "Is it.....?"

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Sleezattle, WA, USA

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is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

Only in your polluted mind could you think what I was saying was argumentative. SHUT UP and get off Dave's nuts for 2 seconds. Ask him how many N/A trannies NOT driven by Pat Richard that he's seen that were blown? ASK HIM.

Then, try this:
Re-read my posts and use a little reading comprehension before you search out ANY post I make to find something that you perceive doesn't give enough respect to your stupid ass and your little clique of gearheads.

Got a question for you. How many Subaru trannies have YOU been through?

haha, you're such a fucking wanker!

I know a guy that went through 2 transmissions in his rs.

Whoops.

there is a teal green fwd 4eat coupe here in fargo that has been sitting around for at least 6 months with a 2500 tag hanging in the window.

i think it is a 95.

gilbrock Wrote:
> OK I can see that with Richard breaking them, it
> might appear that way, especially that often. But
> I have never heard of any breaking from abuses of
> autocrossing, rallycrossing, and even talking to
> PGT people out west with the 2000-2001 2.5RS who
> have run them for a couple of seasons.

At the last WOR/OVR rallycross in 2007, we had one WRX and
one GC chassis OBS fuck something up in the center diff. Poured
chunks of "something" out of the WRX, both owners report weird
clicking noises when reversing.

Cars are still mobile, owners figure to wait until they no longer
are... odd though that on the local Subaru boards you see a few
of 5 speed transmissions for sale, and the ones with working 2nd
gears command a premium, and they all sell pretty quickly.

Of course, rallycrossing a 135hp car puts really heavy stresses
on the trans and diffs...

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Pete Remner
Cleveland, Ohio

1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2008 09:45PM by Pete.

gilbrock Wrote:
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> Only in your polluted mind could you think what I
> was saying was argumentative.

EVERYTHING you say is either argumentitive or complaining.


>>SHUT UP

You come HERE and tell ANYBODY to shut up and you'll be told the same thing EAT SHIT AND DIE COCKSUCKER.

>and get off Dave's nuts for 2 seconds.

Sorry California boy, I don't have a clue what your phrase "Get off Dave's nuts for 2 seconds" means.

Want to try ENGLISH?


Ask him how many N/A
> trannies NOT driven by Pat Richard that he's seen
> that were blown? ASK HIM.

Just called him up and said you're screaing that I should, and we got sidetracked talking about inter-net heroes.
He said he would come on later and ask you how many trannies of any sort you've actually seen inside of.
>
> Then, try this:
> Re-read my posts and use a little reading
> comprehension before you search out ANY post I
> make to find something that you perceive doesn't
> give enough respect to your stupid ass and your
> little clique of gearheads.

Hey, I have some good friends here and some good acquaintances, is that yet another thing that you find impossible to believe that could happen?
A Little clique?

Silly child, that's not what's going on here.


>
> Got a question for you. How many Subaru trannies
> have YOU been through?

I don't work on Subaru trannies, other people do. The cars seem to attract a certain sort of unintelligent, self deluded, obnoxious personality many of which may have done zero to 2 rallies on their whole lives and yet feel that can tell people to shut up constantly.
You for example.

I have however poked and prodded at the remains of many a dead Subaru gearbox from a worrying array of peoples cars. Considering how slow most people drive the stuff, it's a pretty sad record.
>
> haha, you're such a fucking wanker!


Awwwww shit get caught once and they call you that for the rest of your life.

But let's say I concede that for a moment
I still wonder just who the fuck you imagine yourself to be, and how you think your opinions are worth more than a drop of sweat off a bulls balls?


You SOUND like a whiny punk ass bitch, a cliché of what all the whole world perceives all of Southern California to be overrun by and thats why I keep asking why you think you know anything.

And like the little weasel you come across as, you continue to pointedly refuse to say who you are and why you think you're opinion is worthy of responding to.






>
>

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John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.

gilbrock Wrote:
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> Jesus, that's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing
> that the gears are or are not smaller. I'm saying
> that when that specific tranny is paired with the
> 165 hp N/A engine, I've never ever heard of one
> going. I'm not a mechanic nor have I been Pat
> Richard's crew person. Like you said, Pat's not
> exactly nice to cars.
>
> L2 Over Your Mom


I was just correcting your apparent (I say apparent because that's how it read) assertion that the RS gearbox is stronger than the early WRX gearbox, lest anyone believe that incorrect assumption is true.
Then in reply to my post stating the WRX tranny is actually stronger and has wider gears you say you do sound a bit argumentative when you say, "with Richard breaking them it might appear that way..." Umm, yeah, it actually does appear that way because that's the way it is.
Just because you've never heard of one breaking doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Just because I've never heard of you looking inside a Subaru transmission doesn't mean you never have. So I ask, just as John asked but you never answered, have you?

gilbrock Wrote:
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> Only in your polluted mind could you think what I
> was saying was argumentative. SHUT UP and get off
> Dave's nuts for 2 seconds. Ask him how many N/A
> trannies NOT driven by Pat Richard that he's seen
> that were blown? ASK HIM.
>

It sounded argumentative to me. I rebuilt my first Subaru tranny in 1985, (do you even remember 1985, were you even born yet? Just wondering.) I've seen plenty of broken Subie trannies. Most WRX but some N/A and they weren't all driven by Pat Richard. Contrary to popular belief Pat does not have the market cornered on broken Subaru trannies. The basic design of the Subaru 5MT goes back to the early '70's. It started out life as a 4 speed FWD tranny behind an engine of perhaps 60hp. It had plenty of extra torque capacity at that power level. Later they added a 5th gear to the outside of the main case as so many manufacturers did back then on their early 5 speeds. Then they added a center diff and over the years made incremental improvements to the gears, synchros, case, etc. Power levels went up over the years, especially with the WRX until that same transmission design was now having to cope with 200 more ft/lbs of torque (stock) than the engine it was orginally designed for. Gear widths have grown a bit but there is only so much room in there. The shaft centers are the same (meaning the gear diameters are the same) and the case dimensions are the same (though the case has been strengthenes a bit over the years) now, in 2008, as they were in 1970. So the Subaru 5 speed is currently at about the limit of what it can handle. If you treat it nice it will be fine. If you are hard on it or give it too much power it won't last long.


>
> haha, you're such a fucking wanker!
>>

Hmm, sounds like a classic case of projection... (Look it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection)