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Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)

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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 06:18AM
Jens Wrote:
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> Seventy bucks for a rallycross? Wow... that must
> work out to something like $50/mile?
>
> $5/stage mile is too much for a rally.
>
> What makes rallycross worth so much? Oh yeah...
> SCCA. I get it.
>
>
>


tsd = $30 for 150 miles = $0.20 per mile.
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Re: Rallycross in Connecticut?
November 10, 2008 06:56AM
Jens Wrote:
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> Somewhere in this thread a day or two ago I
> noticed something
> about "Stafford Springs". Is that Stafford
> Springs, Connecticut? If so, when?
>
> I'm about 20 minutes away, so ought to go check it
> out for fun.... As long as there is no spectator
> charge.
>
>

NER SCCA runs at Stafford Springs Speedway in late Jan. Last year there was a two day national "challenge" (for what its worth). No spectators but there is plenty of room and an excellent vantage point for interested motorsports enthusiasts :-p

The hope is for snow but last year the entire place was a sheet of ice. Studs are allowed. It's one of the more expensive NER sites but a hot lunch is usually provided with the entry fee.




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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 10:54AM
Wow, it is still quite cheap! even at 70$ for non members!

There are 3 here this winter, 210$ per event! (yes, that is per event!) 500$ for 3 events if you registered over 2 months in advance...

I wanted to see how it is to drive a RWD (my "new" Volvo), but for that price I'll go to a friend cottage where we can have fun on the lake and have one hell of a nice diner for everybody for less than 1 entry fee.






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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 11:04AM
Francois Wrote:
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> Wow, it is still quite cheap! even at 70$ for non
> members!
>
> There are 3 here this winter, 210$ per event!
> (yes, that is per event!) 500$ for 3 events if you
> registered over 2 months in advance...
>
> I wanted to see how it is to drive a RWD (my "new"
> Volvo), but for that price I'll go to a friend
> cottage where we can have fun on the lake and have
> one hell of a nice diner for everybody for less
> than 1 entry fee.
>
>
>
>
> Francois

For a rallycross, you sure those aren't rally sprints prices? How much do your rallies cost? That seems to be approaching the cost of a one day rally.

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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 11:37AM
Francois Wrote:
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> Wow, it is still quite cheap! even at 70$ for non
> members!
>
> There are 3 here this winter, 210$ per event!
> (yes, that is per event!) 500$ for 3 events if you
> registered over 2 months in advance...
>
> I wanted to see how it is to drive a RWD (my "new"
> Volvo), but for that price I'll go to a friend
> cottage where we can have fun on the lake and have
> one hell of a nice diner for everybody for less
> than 1 entry fee.


WHAT????

To dodge a few traffic cones on some unnatural course on a dirt lot? 210 bucks???

Hey everybody...you can come to my track behind my pole barn and run around on the rev limiter in 1st gear if you like. You can put numbers on the side of your street car with magnets and tell your coworkers that you are "going racing" this weekend. I'll even make some rules. Fastest time wins and you have to wear a helmet. Preferably, not a football helmet. There's no cones, but you have to weave your way around the MX jumps, and that constitutes the track. It does create a full circuit.

Just sign a waiver and pay me "only" a hundred bucks and have at it. I'll even give you a trophy if you win...you want imported or domestic beer?

Fercryinoutloud. $210? For "rallycross??" (And by "rallycross," of course I don't mean "rallycross," but rather the perversion of gymkhana on dirt that stole the name from the proper sport of racing rally-inspired tin tops wheel to wheel in yurrip.)





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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 12:06PM
fiasco Wrote:
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> A month or two ago, I found I actually had a free
> day with a rallycross within 1.5 hours of home. My
> ever-so-sweet (and slow) 2003 Legacy wagon has new
> brakes and tie rod ends, and is paid off and on
> its way to beater status at 114k miles, so I'm
> thinking, why not?
>
> Short notice, non-SCCA member entry fee...$70.
> Oops, did that entry sheet just land in the
> woodstove?

When the SCCA rolled out their "weekend membership" crap, our region just reduced entrance fees by a like amount so non members end up paying the same price as before. ($40 for non members) Then again, we're not New England smiling smiley

Spectating is always free, and usually anybody is willing to give rides to non-competitors. You have to sign the same waiver whether you spectate or compete, and most regions have a policy of permitting spectators to ride along, because 9 out of 10 times, they come back with money in hand.

I do not want to think about what my cost per "stage mile" works out to be... given that I am driving an 18mpg car 150-250 miles and get maybe ten runs on a 1/4 - 1/2 mile long course...







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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 12:12PM
Jon Burke Wrote:
>
> plus in Cali, we need water trucks for the dust at
> almost every event....skip loaders to fix what we
> rut up, and at some venues....an EMT on staff.
> (in case one of us goes off course at 25mph and
> can't stop )
>

Fuck watering for dust. That is what masks and air filters are for.

I can't see needing an EMT, although the fast line through one of our last courses involved pushing the nose through a tree at about 45. If you didn't get that close, you'd slide too wide on the elevation change/off-camber on the outside of the corner and lose a bunch of speed. Glad nobody else figured that out.

Sadly we don't run there anymore.

I'm glad I don't run where some of you guys run... we like tight courses but I've needed third gear a few times.








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Re: Some interesting reading! (SCCA rallyx)
November 10, 2008 12:25PM
12xalt Wrote:
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>
> For a rallycross, you sure those aren't rally
> sprints prices? How much do your rallies cost?
> That seems to be approaching the cost of a one day
> rally.
>
>


No that is really for a rallycross! a few cones placed on an iced racetrack! I used to do rally sprint for less than that around 2001. It's not the typical 1st gear parking lot ride tough. It's more like "how fast can you go on glare ice on a track". I used 3rd gear a few time in the Laser, but I doubt I would need it in a 2WD car without studs (and they are forbidden).


a Regional 1 day event cost about 350$, so it's comming close (too close for my taste) but still a bit less expensive.






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