All Fours Rally Team needs your help for SNO DRIFT!

Exactly.

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Agatino, Fortunato
All Fours Rally team
Based in Olympia Washington

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I need help for a luxury I cant afford. Like a rolex. I could sell my Tag and be halfway there... So any help is appreciated.

PS: Ohh...my bad, I'll start my own shameless need money for a luxury thread.

I'm trying to get in to Group 2... Can you donate your Civic to my cause? Also, my co-driver will take that Tag Heuer off your hands....Can't do a proper time card without a fine Swiss Automatic movement.


(PS: I'm going to need some gas money to come pick the car up.)

And you voted for Obama too right?

Of course... Hope and change! Yes we can!

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Of course... Hope and change!

Heh. Sounds like MY OWN Racing Budget....

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Parfois, on fait pas semblant!

I am:
I know:
I am from:

Nobody.
Nothing.
Nowhere.

Since this is the snarkier forum, I'll post here, I guess. Also, I voted for Obama and give money to homeless people when I can, so....

The problem with the "Can't fail if you never try" (by which I think you mean, "can't succeed if you never try" is that your trying might be ruining crowdfunding for the people that really need it. Just like the fake homeless who make a career of carefully picking cardboard signs to write "disabled vet, two kids, really want to work" on them, the problem is that you make it more difficult for the people who actually need those handouts to get them.

Let's say a team was one event from winning the national championship when someone went the wrong way on stage and caused their car to be destroyed. They start up a crowdfund to get those last points. Seems like a reasonable reason to beg for cash. However, all the people who might have donated have already been burned by people who asked for money who didn't really need it. They feel cheated by crowdfunding and are hesitant to donate again. This is why old people don't give cash to the homeless, they've been cheated too many times. (Also, the "hard work worked for me" generalization, but still...)

So what you are doing, essentially, is robbing from future legitimate crowdfund efforts with your campaign. This becomes particularly painful when the second result people get when googling your name is this thread about how you rip people off: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1989127

Finally, if you are so serious about making it to Sno*Drift, why isn't your name on the entry list? http://rally-america.com/events/2014/SNODRIFT/entries

Do the right thing for the rally community and spend some time saving up for the races you want to do instead of trying to get the rally community to pay for it. In this case, it can hurt to try.

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Dave has come to an.agreement a long time ago as well.as recently saw daves in person at sema, dave is a good guy and we had to come to an agreement where both parties were happy due to mis communication on both ends. Did you see the date on the thread? Pmease take a second to look again at the campaign if we do not get funded we will not go and all people who.gave get refunded? Maybe it is your attitude why we dont see you at more events? We do work and we will be at all.of the nw events, we also are paying for some of the amount to , make it to sno.drift we are askong for assistance if we do not make it well then it was not meant to be and refunds given.
Its funny how people dig up old stuff when they are mad ? Is it our fault you did not make it out to big white? Just because we are attempting to get to (1) event with help does not make us a bum. It makes us a nor,al.rally team on a normal.budget trying to get to an event, i dont see you flamming the other 6 + teams ?.
And thank you for the positiveness!


Tino.

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Agatino, Fortunato
All Fours Rally team
Based in Olympia Washington

Quite a few people know your name. And by the sounds of it, not in a good way.

I don't care about the agreement, I care about the perception of your business dealings. That perception, based on google results for your name, is shitty.

I appreciate that if you don't reach your goal, the funds will not be given to you. I think that is a smart move. But if someone donates and it fails, don't they still feel like they shouldn't bother donating next time?

Please refrain from talking about things you know nothing about, however. Feel free to look up my name, Don Burress, and count how many events I've done. When you have more than me, feel free to talk about my attitude.

If you want to know how you can tow to a distant national event on a "normal" rally budget, feel free to ask any of the hundreds of teams who have done so without crowdfunding, including the team I'm a part of (1st place, National Gp2, LSPR 2007).

I hope you make it to Sno*Drift. I hope you win your class against a strong midwest contingent of Open Light cars. I hope you (and the other crowdfunding efforts) don't ruin crowdfunding rallies for everyone, which is why I won't be donating to your campaign. I'm just trying to look out for the future of my sport is all. I hope you do the same.

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Dave has come to an.agreement a long time ago as well.as recently saw daves in person at sema, dave is a good guy and we had to come to an agreement where both parties were happy due to mis communication on both ends. Did you see the date on the thread? Pmease take a second to look again at the campaign if we do not get funded we will not go and all people who.gave get refunded? Maybe it is your attitude why we dont see you at more events? We do work and we will be at all.of the nw events, we also are paying for some of the amount to , make it to sno.drift we are askong for assistance if we do not make it well then it was not meant to be and refunds given.
Its funny how people dig up old stuff when they are mad ? Is it our fault you did not make it out to big white? Just because we are attempting to get to (1) event with help does not make us a bum. It makes us a nor,al.rally team on a normal.budget trying to get to an event, i dont see you flamming the other 6 + teams ?.
And thank you for the positiveness!


Tino.

Well there does seem to be an awful lot of people on that thread talking about their own experiences, people who know you over a period of time...
Pretty consistently harsh words... I know real well how just 1-2% of unhappy customers---for whatever reason---can be a thing that assholes who had nothing to do with the transaction will bring up 10 years later, but that doesn't look like 1-2% unhappy...
Looks more like a pattern of behavior...

Looks like serious explanations would be called for......
What is all this about?


6 Fortunato, Agatino
Defendant Thurston Superior 84-2-00530-8 04-17-1984

11 Fortunato, Agatino
Judgment Debtor Thurston Superior 84-9-00558-3 04-17-1984

5 Fortunato, Agatino
Defendant Thurston Superior 87-2-01098-5 06-12-1987

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Defendant Thurston Superior 88-2-00997-7 05-12-1988

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Defendant Thurston County Dist 12985 05-25-1988

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Defendant Thurston County Dist 13567 02-24-1989

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Defendant Thurston County Dist 26768 11-20-1989

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Petitioner Thurston Superior 90-2-00583-3 03-19-1990

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Defendant Thurston Superior 97-2-01209-8 06-02-1997

23 Fortunato, Agatino Shawn
Defendant Thurston Superior 02-8-00399-0 04-08-2002

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Defendant Olympia Municipal Ct CR0192441 10-28-2002

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I49689TC 06-16-2006

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Defendant Tumwater Municipal I00029102 01-24-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I04981843 02-01-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I05213880 05-30-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I05387701 07-26-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I04983947 08-03-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist 77336 09-26-2007

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I04983120 03-13-2008

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I55137TC 05-06-2008

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Defendant Thurston County Dist 8Y6044462 11-14-2008

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Defendant Thurston County Dist I05255361 02-03-2009

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Defendant Tumwater Municipal I00032470 04-15-2009

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Defendant South Pacific Dist I06102676 10-26-2009

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Defendant South Pacific Dist I06102483 11-02-2009

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Defendant Olympia Municipal Ct IN0239292 01-21-2010

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Petitioner Thurston County Dist AH10-0092 05-13-2010

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Petitioner Thurston County Dist AH10-0093 05-14-2010


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Lets start with there is 2 names there mine has a middle, and sure iwill.be more then happy to pull up.each event and send anyone i.formation regardging each one feel.free to.ask theres nothi.g to hide. Many very old ya i messed up a few times i.opened at shop at age 17 on my own yes mistakes were made my friends. As i said i had nothing to hide i will be more then welcome to send any and all information.

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Agatino, Fortunato
All Fours Rally team
Based in Olympia Washington

Crowdfunding, still waiting on my Chris Duplesis t-shirt, maybe he'll trade me for this big box full of Cody shirts from when we put together that deal. I have to aggree with Don, if the whole rally community isn't totally burned on this concept your campaign could be the last straw.

Don't get me wrong I do hope that you get to snodrift and that you kick some ass.

Jvl, i went out of.my way for you today.. court house. Guess what, all but 2 traffic infractions. The 2 (1) filing a harassment order and 1 dv charge both time i was the petitioner. Thanks xxoxo

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Agatino, Fortunato
All Fours Rally team
Based in Olympia Washington

awww people harassing you about money you owe them?

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Less talk. More rally.

Awee just one.

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Agatino, Fortunato
All Fours Rally team
Based in Olympia Washington

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Jvl, i went out of.my way for you today.. court house. Guess what, all but 2 traffic infractions. The 2 (1) filing a harassment order and 1 dv charge both time i was the petitioner. Thanks xxoxo

Lol. It doesn't matter what you do or say, you won't squeeze a nickel out of this site.

Maybe your pals on nasioc will donate to your cause...since you're such a great guy these days?