good t5 jv?

rallysmurf Wrote:
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>
> yes from scratch. the 2.95 gears can swap to any
> case
> right? still might be a good deal to get. if to
> long
> i'll find a short case.

You can get the 2.95 gears for either the Ford or GM mainshaft, but my understanding is that the splines are slightly different between the 2 so the gear sets cannot be interchanged without also changing out the mainshaft.
>

>
> If you have aren't sure whether or not you have a
> World Class T5, the quickest external check is to
> look at the counter-shaft bearing cup, just below
> the bearing retainer. It it is of the roller
> bearing type, with Timken engravings (left) you
> have a WC T5.
>
The Mustang changed to WC in 85 and the Camaro a coupla years later. There's stuff on the net out there on all this.

Regards,
Mark B.

starion887 Wrote:
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> OK good; that IS pretty long in the BMW; it's like
> 13-14 inches in the Opel! Didn't mean to scare you
> but T5's do vary quite a bit per the chart John
> posted. If you can use the Camaro direct, then you
> can get a lower cost one from eBay or even rebuilt
> with the 2.95 1st gear. That was standard in a lot
> of the Camaro boxes but I think they only showed
> up for Mustangs in the special racing boxes; the
> difference you are seeing from some data to the
> ratio the seller gave you may be the diff between
> the V8 and V6 versions......

The 2.95 gearset was the standard V8 gearset for Ford pre 85 and those are non "world Class" which is a joke cause the big "World class" hype was about "improved shift quality" which they got from the same suppliers as EVERYBODY ELSE which hasd some spray on kevlar facing on the inside cone of the synchro rings-----which protly flaked off after 18-20 months and shift quality went to hell.

AFTER 85 the 2.95 was "aftermerket" or "Z-spec" box.

The Camaro V8 boxes all came with 2.95, the V6 came with I think 3.45.

Ford used the 2.95 gearset in the Cosworth rwd cars but with a nice 0,8 top.


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Here is a good table for the Ford T5 gear ratios. Varied a lot from early to late and from 8 to 6 to 4 cylinders.

Edit: Where did that link go?? Gettin' old....

Regards,
Mark B.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/02/2008 11:02AM by starion887.

Oh, yeah?
I stink dis ones better than your'n.
1352- Year Model Engine 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th R
114 Factory 85-86 T-Bird 2.3 T 235 4.03 2.37 1.49 1.00 0.81 3.76 6 7.41 0.59

115 Motorsport 79-83 Mustang 5.0 305 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76 6 7.18 0.668 a

116 Factory 85-86 SVO 2.3 T 250 3.50 2.14 1.39 1.00 0.78 3.39 6 7.41 0.59

126 Factory 85 Mustang 5.0 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68 3.15 7 7.18 0.668

141 Factory 86 Mustang 5.0 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68 3.15 7 7.18 0.668

154 Factory 87 Mustang 2.3 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.85 3.70 7 7.41 0.59

155 Factory 87 T-Bird 2.3 T 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.79 3.70 6 7.41 0.59

162 Factory 87-88 Mustang 2.3 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.79 3.70 7 7.41 0.59

165 Factory 86 Mustang 5.0 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68 3.15 7 7.18 0.668

169 Factory 86.5-89 Mustang 5.0 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.68 3.15 7 7.18 0.668

194 Factory 89-90 Mustang 2.3 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.79 3.70 7 7.41 0.59

199 Factory 90-91 Mustang 5.0 300 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.18 0.668 b

200 Motorsport 79-93 Mustang 5.0 305 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 a

202 Aftermarket 79-93 Mustang 5.0 305 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 c

204 Service 85-89 Mustang 5.0 300 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 7 7.18 0.668

207 Factory 91 Mustang 2.3 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.79 3.70 7 7.41 0.59

208 Factory 92-93 Mustang 5.0 300 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.18 0.668 d

209 Factory 92-93 Mustang 2.3 240 3.97 2.34 1.46 1.00 0.79 3.70 7 7.41 0.59

218 Factory 93 Mustang Cobra 310 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.18 0.668 e

219 Factory 94 Mustang 5.0 300 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.85 0.668

220 Factory 94 Mustang 3.8 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.73 3.15 7 7.85 0.668

225 Aftermarket 79-93 Mustang 5.0 325 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.80 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 b,c,d

227 Motorsport 79-93 Mustang 5.0 325 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 b,c,d,f

236 Factory 94 1/2 Mustang 3.8 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.73 3.15 7 7.85 0.668

238 Factory 94-97 Mustang 3.8 265 3.35 1.93 1.29 1.00 0.73 3.15 8 7.85 0.668

239 Aftermarket 93 Mustang Cobra 310 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.18 0.68 c,e

242 Factory 94-95 Mustang Cobra 5.0 310 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.85 0.668 e

246 Factory 94-95 Mustang 5.0 300 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.85 0.668

249 Motorsport 79-93 Mustang 5.0 330 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 e,g

251 Aftermarket 79-93 Mustang 5.0 330 2.95 1.94 1.34 1.00 0.63 2.76 7 7.18 0.668 c,e

253 Aftermarket 94-95 Mustang Cobra 5.0 310 3.35 1.99 1.33 1.00 0.68 3.15 8 7.85 0.668 c,e


Input Shaft = 1-1/16 inch/10 spline
Ouput Shaft = 28 Splines

Notes:
a) Motorsport M-7003-A
b) Improved Steel Alloy
c) Aftermarket
d) Carbon fiber 3/4 blocker rings
e) Cobra tapered roller pocket bearing
f) Motorsport M-7003-X
g) Motorsport M-7003-Z


Neeener neener!
Happy new years.

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Sleezattle, WA, USA

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well i got one coming,
after more measuring i think i could do ether short or long, its only
43mm. this should get em started. sound like it might need a shift
fork.
i have a bell for motor fitment coming.
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/grt/main.html
so jv, if the bell is to short think it best to make a ring for adapt.
if too long cut and weld a ring on? weird cast alum might now weld solid.


thanks for you help guys.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/84-Mustang-5-0-T5-Transmission-NWC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33733QQihZ007QQitemZ170182333665QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

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john vanlandingham Wrote:

> The 2.95 gearset was the standard V8 gearset for
> Ford pre 85 and those are non "world Class" which
> is a joke cause the big "World class" hype was
> about "improved shift quality" which they got from
> the same suppliers as EVERYBODY ELSE which hasd
> some spray on kevlar facing on the inside cone of
> the synchro rings-----which protly flaked off
> after 18-20 months and shift quality went to
> hell.

And don't tell anyone this, because non WC transmissions are worth almost nothing on the used market because people think they're awful.

Meanwhile people for some reason lust after the T56, which shifts like a truck to begin with.

IIRC you're supposed to use ATF with the WC units, use gear oil and it f's up the synchro faces.

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1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing)
1978
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.