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Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage

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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 02:36PM
alkun, I have been dateing the same girl now for 9 years. Running around looking for girls is over.

LOL, Sofa King. sagsert comment about my car dident upset me at all. Im building this car for all the right reasons. I have been around the SS site for a long time, If I wanted to get in to rally for cheep I would have bought a car years ago.



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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 03:19PM
Hey have you checked what the caliper piston diameters? If you know the piston diameters front and rear then you might be able to get a real good guess on the master sizes.... or if you wanted you could waste a lot of time with some 'pooters to figure out the same thing..


What are you gonna do about the big rubber bushes in the suspension links and arms?

What pistons?

Nice project, all you need is a better hat than that Sub-a-rat hat.



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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 03:43PM
John, I have calculated the sizing of my master cylinders using brakemath.
Front 7/10" bore
Rear 7/8" bore

Front suspension is getting redone with Tubular steel, and Delrin bushings.
Rear suspension is getting spherical heim ends, We are still thinking of an idea to get rid of that big rubber dildo materiel of bushings on the trailing arms.

Eventually we are going to re-do the trailing arms.

Oh, as far at the sub-a-rat hat, It makes a good garage hat, that I dont mind getting dirty, My mitsu hats dont get grease on them.

Are you asking about engine pistons?



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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 04:05PM
kaioken Wrote:
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> John, I have calculated the sizing of my master
> cylinders using brakemath.
> Front 7/10" bore
> Rear 7/8" bore

OK but still curious to know what the pistons in the calipers are sized at just to add to the database.
>
> Front suspension is getting redone with Tubular
> steel, and Delrin bushings.
> Rear suspension is getting spherical heim ends, We
> are still thinking of an idea to get rid of that
> big rubber dildo materiel of bushings on the
> trailing arms.
>
> Eventually we are going to re-do the trailing
> arms.

Good, I did some suspenders for a guy local with an EVO and the huge floppy "gen-u-ine rubberoid" stuff was freaking huge, and rubbery.
(Damn guy still hasn't picked up his rear shocks---or paid for them!)
>
> Oh, as far at the sub-a-rat hat, It makes a good
> garage hat, that I dont mind getting dirty, My
> mitsu hats dont get grease on them.
>
> Are you asking about engine pistons?

Yeah them too.
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at Sep 4, 2008 by
> kaioken.






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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 06:46PM
Front Calipers:
Number of pistons within each front caliper: 4
Piston 1: 40.4 mm
Piston 2: 42.8 mm
Front rotor diameter: 309 mm

Rear Calipers:
Number of pistons within each rear caliper: 2
Piston 1: 38.1 mm
Rear rotor diameter: 298 mm

As for engine pistons, Im am still unsure what I want to run with. I was going to call Nick Arias and ask him for imput on which piston would best suit my application. But I am leaning twards CP Pistons.




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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 07:09PM
Thats gonna be a lot of front brake.



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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 07:54PM
kaioken Wrote:
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> Front Calipers:
> Number of pistons within each front caliper: 4
> Piston 1: 40.4 mm
> Piston 2: 42.8 mm
> Front rotor diameter: 309 mm
>
> Rear Calipers:
> Number of pistons within each rear caliper: 2
> Piston 1: 38.1 mm
> Rear rotor diameter: 298 mm
>
> As for engine pistons, Im am still unsure what I
> want to run with. I was going to call Nick Arias
> and ask him for imput on which piston would best
> suit my application. But I am leaning twards CP
> Pistons.
>
I started using J&E based on the recommendations of the workshop mangaer at TotalSeal R&D dept when I needed pistons in sizes i couldn't get Mahle. Specifically I wanted to keep the nice .0035 cylinder clearances, and Brian pointed out that in rally (They built Choinier's "Hyundi-bitchi G62Bs so they knew what rally was---and I had lots of time to nose around in the bottom end and oooogle the head) much like NASCAR we run the motors hard for some extended period, and then we putter relatively speaking us on transits , them when they get a yellow flag.
He said if we have cooling for water and oil good for the hard running then we have overcapacity when cruising and few things will wear a bore out like excessive clearances and lousy sealing and oil wash down and heat in and gas and gasses into the bottom end.
The alloy J&E began popularizing , CP uses as well and its damn near the same thing Mahle used like forever--which I used in every race motor i had from 1970 thru 1997.
Now since CP came around, I have been a CP Dealer, and I use them because if the excellent customer support and because i have had the same straight talking guy for 7 years now.
If you would like to talk about CP pistons, give me a call.







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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 07:56PM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> kaioken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Front Calipers:
> > Number of pistons within each front caliper:
> 4
> > Piston 1: 40.4 mm
> > Piston 2: 42.8 mm
> > Front rotor diameter: 309 mm
> >
> > Rear Calipers:
> > Number of pistons within each rear caliper:
> 2
> > Piston 1: 38.1 mm
> > Rear rotor diameter: 298 mm


AAAAhhh good, these piston numbers are good gravel numbers.
Very close to what I've seen on all sorts of GpA cars on gravel.
> >
> > As for engine pistons, Im am still unsure
> what I
> > want to run with. I was going to call Nick
> Arias
> > and ask him for imput on which piston would
> best
> > suit my application. But I am leaning twards
> CP
> > Pistons.
>
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca






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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 09:17PM
Sofa King Wrote:
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> turoc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dont waste your time!
> > I think Mustafa has aka "sagsert" a complete
> or
> > nearly complete one for sale
> That's a horrible thing to say now that the guy
> already has the car cut up into tiny pieces!
>
>
>
>
> Kevin Hawkinson
> Seattle, WA
> 83 Volvo 240 Gp5 (in progress)
> 34-ish
Yeah, i didnt realize he was that far into it. I had only looked up the first few posts and it didnt seem that far...
Anyhow, goodluck with the build





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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 04, 2008 10:24PM
kaioken Wrote:
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> alkun, I have been dateing the same girl now for 9
> years. Running around looking for girls is over.
>

Amen. Now just keep "practicing" at being married and don't actually tie the know and you're good to go.

grinning smiley



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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 06, 2008 12:02AM
Lateral half-rollbar 253-3 and Upper front of wind screen bar



A-post and main hoop base welded to floor and jack stand tubes in. Mounting feet/Reinforcement feet, the main hoop box is 17 sq. in. top plate is 3/16 and the side is 1/16.





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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 07, 2008 07:27PM
Lower main hoop bracing along with the still bar connection.


So far half of the X-brace configuration is in.


You can see the still bars are in along with the lower main hoop brace




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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 11, 2008 09:18PM
One of four rear sub frame mounts, the lower section you see bolts up to the tube that you see welded in place.


Rear bracing




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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 13, 2008 02:40AM
Update for tonight, Left side sub-frame mount pre weld.


Post weld


Here you can see the Left side back stay, and all four of the sub-frame mounts. We ran out of tubing on tuesday, we ordered
Three more 20 foot sicks of 1.5 x .095 wall and one more stick of 1.75 x .095 and a sheet of 4ft.x8ft. 20gauge sheet metal.


In this picture you can see the tubes that are going to be part of the sub-frame, They slide up in to the car and bolt in with a 12mm x 1.25pitch bolt




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Re: Come and watch the Evolution of a Mirage
September 13, 2008 06:46PM
More updates on the roll cage today, today we were able to get 8 bars placed and welded in.

Completed the X in main hoop.


And and then with shoulder harness bars in place, the harness bar is 24 inches from the boxes.


Picture of the top hoop X.


Another picture of the top hoop X from a different angle.


Half of the door bars are in.


We plan on getting another 8-9 bars i tomorrow, hopefully we can get the rear back stays finished off.



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